Thorn Club Tour or Galaxy Ultra?

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Danny

Legendary Member
Location
York
gwhite said:
The advantage of going with Thorn is that for each size of frame they provide three lengths of top tube. This is great for those of us who don't have normal proportions. Custom fit would be worthwhile in my opinion and worth the effort. Good quality too.
Conversely, Dawes seem to have a more limited range of sizes for their various Galaxy bikes - for example they seem jump from 59cms which is too small for me to 64cms which is too big.
 

Abitrary

New Member
On the subject of the Dawes Galaxy versus the ones above that....

They are all steel bikes, but the ultra and the super have compact frames, which negates the point of using steel in the first place, because the triangles are smaller which makes them stiffer.

The original galaxy has normal angles which benefits from the bendiness of steel. The ones above that are a cynical rip-off, and are just aping compact frames of racing bikes, albeit with a very expensive brooks saddle as the cherry on top.
 

vernon

Harder than Ronnie Pickering
Location
Meanwood, Leeds
Abitrary said:
On the subject of the Dawes Galaxy versus the ones above that....

They are all steel bikes, but the ultra and the super have compact frames, which negates the point of using steel in the first place, because the triangles are smaller which makes them stiffer.

The original galaxy has normal angles which benefits from the bendiness of steel. The ones above that are a cynical rip-off, and are just aping compact frames of racing bikes, albeit with a very expensive brooks saddle as the cherry on top.

The Thorn Club Tour is also a compact frame so the point of your advice when choosing between a compact framed Dawes and a compact framed Thorn is?.....
 

Abitrary

New Member
vernon said:
The Thorn Club Tour is also a compact frame so the point of your advice when choosing between a compact framed Dawes and a compact framed Thorn is?.....

Don't buy either.
 

Abitrary

New Member
rich p said:
i'm not an expert but the Ultra galaxy is the most comfortable bike I've ever ridden by far so......

I can't see how the Ultra Galaxy can be more comfortable than the baseline version, except for a better saddle, tyres etc.

The Ultra might as well be aluminium and bring the price down a bit.

The only way that steel works is on long tubes, so they get bendy a bit. And that is what one sees on the baseline one, for 500 quid less.
 

Danny

Legendary Member
Location
York
Originally Posted by vernon
The Thorn Club Tour is also a compact frame so the point of your advice when choosing between a compact framed Dawes and a compact framed Thorn is?.....

Abitrary said:
Don't buy either.
And instead buy what?
 

Danny

Legendary Member
Location
York
Agreed - provided the sizing is right.

Otherwise I'd still consider a Thorn for the greater choice of sizes - or if money is no object, go for a custom build.
 

Abitrary

New Member
Dannyg said:
Agreed - provided the sizing is right.

Otherwise I'd still consider a Thorn for the greater choice of sizes - or if money is no object, go for a custom build.

True, the thorn is a more specific rough riding bike.

I'm just angry that dawes use fashion to market their more high end bikes.
 

rich p

ridiculous old lush
Location
Brighton
Abitrary said:
I can't see how the Ultra Galaxy can be more comfortable than the baseline version, except for a better saddle, tyres etc.

The Ultra might as well be aluminium and bring the price down a bit.

The only way that steel works is on long tubes, so they get bendy a bit. And that is what one sees on the baseline one, for 500 quid less.

I didn't say it was more comfortable than the galaxy as I've never ridden one! I simply stated that thge Ultra was the most comfortable bike I'd ridden. As I said in my first post, most of us have probably only owned one of the 2 bikes asked about and we can only offer a subjective opinion on the one we've got. As the OP wanted to choose between 2 named bikes I didn't think it was worth offering my opinion on other bikes I've owned or other bikes I haven't owned!
 
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Achilles

New Member
Location
Wiltshire
Thanks for the 'advice' :biggrin:- what makes Thorn Club Tour a 'more specific rough riding bike' - it is not that different from the Ultra spec in general terms. Is this important in a tourer?

Also for those that do have a Thorn - what was the buying experience and aftercare like? At the moment my LBS and hence the Galaxy has the edge there and that is an important factor for me. ( and 2 days holiday back!)
 

Andy in Sig

Vice President in Exile
One other factor thing that might be worth looking at is a Rohloff hub gear. It will add a few quid to the cost but that has to be the best system for touring. You are probably aware that Thorn has specialised in them to a large extent.
 
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