Tiagra vs 105 vs Ultegra

[fossyant]

Just get Dura Ace. Mine has been going 25 years !

 

[dim]

105 is good .... I have this on my Giant TCR

however, I have Campagnolo Chorus on my Specialized S-Works .... brilliant, as you can do multiple gear/cog changes with one click. Gear changes are as smooth as butter ....

If ever I sell this bike, I will keep the groupset and wheels and replace it with a second hand 105 groupset, then transfer the chorus set to my new bike. Even the brakes are brilliant

 

[CanucksTraveller]

105 is good .... I have Campagnolo Chorus on my Specialized S-Works .... brilliant, as you can do multiple gear/cog changes with one click.

Will the 105 not do a double gear change down? With the current Tiagra a standard push changes down one cog, but a firmer push takes you down two. You still have to double tap the trigger to go up two of course.

 

[HLaB]

The one noticeable difference I seen between Tiagra and 105 back about 5 years ago was the stupid thumb shifter on Tiagra but technology has trickled down and thats gone. I now run a 2nd hand ultegra and initially that had one noticeable benefit over the 105, more anaesthetically pleasing/ cleaner cable routeing (that said if you want to replace outers you have to unwind and perhaps replace tape). But that routing technology has also trickled down to the newer 105. I think if I was having to splash out I'd spend more on my frame and less on my groupset and 105 (last years Ultegra) would be my choice. If I was really strapped for cash again it''d be the best frame and Tiagra (last years 105)

 

[winjim]

Will the 105 not do a double gear change down? With the current Tiagra a standard push changes down one cog, but a firmer push takes you down two. You still have to double tap the trigger to go up two of course.

Three up five down with UltraShift though.

 

[User482]

The one noticeable difference I seen between Tiagra and 105 back about 5 years ago was the stupid thumb shifter on Tiagra but technology has trickled down and thats gone.

Not on campag...

 

[HLaB]

Not on campag...

Yes agreed. At the same time as I had a bike with Tiagra, I had one with Veloce and I couldn't understand why shimano got it so wrong

 

[Caskman]

My new bike fund is coming along now, I have started having a good look at what's around on sale etc now is a good time for deals on 2016 bikes it seems.

My main question is regarding group sets, is there a major difference between Tiagra 4700, 105 5800 & Ultegra? I know there are weight savings to be had, but is say 105 much smoother than Tiagra for example?

I am looking at the Merida Ride range LBS is a specialist and I want to use them, basically it's getting either a Ride 300, 400 or 500.

Another thing I was considering is maintenance costs I am going to assume Ultegra is horrific if something goes wrong?

I had a budget of around £900 for a new bike and fully expected to get a 105 11spd equipped machine. I ended up buying a Merida ride 300 with 10spd 4700 tiagra which more than suits my mediocre capabilities.
I cannot comment on 105/Ultegra as I've never used them but as others have said these will be smoother and have more kudos. You pay your money and take your choice

 

[Johnno260]

I had a budget of around £900 for a new bike and fully expected to get a 105 11spd equipped machine. I ended up buying a Merida ride 300 with 10spd 4700 tiagra which more than suits my mediocre capabilities.
I cannot comment on 105/Ultegra as I've never used them but as others have said these will be smoother and have more kudos. You pay your money and take your choice

One of the bikes I am considering is a Ride 300 really nice bike.

If it's not the Ride 300 it will probably be the 400.

 

[mythste]

Will the 105 not do a double gear change down? With the current Tiagra a standard push changes down one cog, but a firmer push takes you down two. You still have to double tap the trigger to go up two of course.

I can triple change down if I'm ferocious (read: did not judge this hill very well) enough.

 

[Johnno260]

I am watching this like a hawk mind you!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/172393329845?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

 

[Shortandcrisp]

Just get Dura Ace. Mine has been going 25 years !

If it's 25 years old, then isn't that a good advert for present day tiagra?

 

[tallliman]

Try them out and decide for yourself as you'll be the one riding

Also see if hood shape has any impact on your ability to ride and brake comfortably. That's the reason I personally use SRAM and not any shimano

Apologies for being slightly off topic, I'd agree that I find my sram rival equipped bike to be easier to brake on than my 105. Never thought it being for the reason you mention. thanks!

 

[dim]

here: ... newly listed and a very good bike ... £490 buy it now on ebay
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Giant-TCR...336257?hash=item282380d001:g:3GcAAOSwHMJYGMZM

 

[vickster]

Apologies for being slightly off topic, I'd agree that I find my sram rival equipped bike to be easier to brake on than my 105. Never thought it being for the reason you mention. thanks!

I am a wuss and have interrupter cross lever brakes on my 'tourer' and CX but not on the carbon. I don't know if psychologically that's why I've not ridden the carbon this year...