To Overtake or Not

[Ming the Merciless]

If one assumes the 20mph limit is there for good reason then I don't think it is a good idea to be cycling in excess of this.

Nonsense, it is considered a good idea for motorised vehicles, of many multiples weight of bike or rider. One should not assume that a law applying to vehicles of one class makes sense for vehicles in a completely different class.

 

[markemark]

Why speed limits only apply to motor vehicles.

Cos speeding cars are really dangerous but speeding bikes rarely kill anybody. Same reason cars have lots of other restrictions bikes don’t (mot, insurance, licences, age restrictions etc). Add to that bikes don’t usually have any reliable way of measuring speed.

 

[Mburton1993]

Having just spent 8 days cycling 1000 miles around Wales I did and would continue to just feather the brakes.

Assuming the new limit will be for B roads and country lanes and not A roads then 20mph will do, what with the hit and miss road surfaces and blind corners.

 

[Drago]

Cos speeding cars are really dangerous but speeding bikes rarely kill anybody.

Other than the riders themselves.

 

[Alex321]

Having just spent 8 days cycling 1000 miles around Wales I did and would continue to just feather the brakes.

Assuming the new limit will be for B roads and country lanes and not A roads then 20mph will do, what with the hit and miss road surfaces and blind corners.

The new limit will not be for B roads and country lanes.

Where the default limit is currently 30mph (which are those officially called "restricted roads" - defined by having street lights), the defauilt limit will be 20mph from 17th September.

There will be exceptions to this, where the limit will remain 30 - by traffic order. And there will be some roads which do not have streetlights, that will be restricted to 20 by traffic order.

The map I linked to above shows all affected roads, both before and after the new laws and orders come in.

It is mainly (but not entirely) residential roads and shopping streets which will be 20.

 

[Mike_P]

Is mainly (but not entirely) residential roads and shopping streets which will be 20.

So the locations where pedestrians will be expecting low speeds from motorised vehicles and no neccessarily spotting a speeding pedal cyclist.

 

[Mburton1993]

It is mainly (but not entirely) residential roads and shopping streets which will be 20.

Ah, well with that being the case overtaking in those areas would also not be the safest choice.

 

[Solocle]

Ah, well with that being the case overtaking in those areas would also not be the safest choice.

Or any road with street lights that gets overlooked by the local council.

 

[Alex321]

So the locations where pedestrians will be expecting low speeds from motorised vehicles and no neccessarily spotting a speeding pedal cyclist.

Ah, well with that being the case overtaking in those areas would also not be the safest choice.

Or any road with street lights that gets overlooked by the local council.

Indeed.

As I said, not entirely Residential or shopping streets.

 

[rrqu]

Honestly I would overtake them if I had the chance. Fight the power!

 

[presta]

I love the bit where she slips up and admits she's doing 25mph.



View: https://twitter.com/Pedalperspectiv/status/1711136674581803083

 

[Alex321]

I did find one bit of road yesterday that I ride fairly often, that is now a 20 limit where I normally get close to 30, and was held up behind a car doing about 17-18 yesterday. I didn't overtake, but only because there was traffic coming the other way.

There is a primary school shortly after the bottom of the hill, but it was 2:00pm on a Sunday when I rode it yesterday, I usually turn right about 100 yards before the school.

https://www.google.com/maps/@51.490...as658EDnj4bfwUPw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu

 

[Dogtrousers]

Digging up a slightly old thread. Here's Michael Hutchinson's take from a TT point of view.


View: https://twitter.com/Doctor_Hutch/status/1726927805093757289?t=_QFVEWkPud8apRfQtvpa_Q&s=19