Rohloff_Brompton_Rider
Formerly just_fixed
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Totally off topic....any care home managers on here?
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accountantpete
OAP
Have just lost my auntie after 15 years in various care homes.
Dress is usually smart but informal - ie trousers shirt and tie.
The first thing I would do is look very closely at the company as some are a lot better than others. She ended up under Four Seasons who appeared to be be bit better at getting the residents out of bed and mixing with the other residents. Some just drug the residents up and leave them in bed.
Secondly you rely on the staff to a very large extent - ideally you want to be looking at a Home with a settled staff who know their job and are willing to work with you.
Good luck
Dress is usually smart but informal - ie trousers shirt and tie.
The first thing I would do is look very closely at the company as some are a lot better than others. She ended up under Four Seasons who appeared to be be bit better at getting the residents out of bed and mixing with the other residents. Some just drug the residents up and leave them in bed.
Secondly you rely on the staff to a very large extent - ideally you want to be looking at a Home with a settled staff who know their job and are willing to work with you.
Good luck
Sara_H
Guru
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I'm a bit confused. Are you currently a pre reg student nurse? If so, do you think a bit of shop floor experience would be a good idea before going into management?
Sara_H
Guru
Well, please let us know wich companies are employing newly qualified nurses with no experience to manage their care homes so we can avoid them.
craigwend
Grimpeur des terrains plats
It seems you have a business plan, regards your nurse training...
Many years ago I managed a care home for just under 6 months for a major charity (whilst a vaccant post) not something I'd ever want to do again after, as others point out, when the going gets .... you are the last line of , I remeber doing 3 sleepovers in succesion due to 'staff shortages', senior managers not always on call when needed
'Care homes' are not care homes, they are a 'care' provision-business's, to puerly make money (in most cases) -
In my experince th LA ones were the best in the area I worked, though generally no longer exist.
If you are business minded & prepared to succeded - I'm sure you will, find a 'decent' comapny if you can find one, though the recent collapses of southern cross (?) & the appaling state of winterbourne view (castlebeck?) would make me wonder why ,don't want to gain 'expereince' on the wards / in the community first?
I'm guessing your age will offset the lack of post qualifying experience & there will be willing employers out there
Many years ago I managed a care home for just under 6 months for a major charity (whilst a vaccant post) not something I'd ever want to do again after, as others point out, when the going gets .... you are the last line of , I remeber doing 3 sleepovers in succesion due to 'staff shortages', senior managers not always on call when needed
'Care homes' are not care homes, they are a 'care' provision-business's, to puerly make money (in most cases) -
In my experince th LA ones were the best in the area I worked, though generally no longer exist.
If you are business minded & prepared to succeded - I'm sure you will, find a 'decent' comapny if you can find one, though the recent collapses of southern cross (?) & the appaling state of winterbourne view (castlebeck?) would make me wonder why ,don't want to gain 'expereince' on the wards / in the community first?
I'm guessing your age will offset the lack of post qualifying experience & there will be willing employers out there
subaqua
What’s the point
- Location
- Leytonstone
faced with a manager who knew what an s curve or a gannt chart was against the practical experience for the thing they were supposed to be managing i would take the one who had the practical experience.
I have had the misfortune to work with "managers" who didn't understand the basics of what they were supposed to be managing- they were dangerous- not just to themselves but to everyboidy they had a duty of care to.
I started in management after 15 yrs of "shop floor " hands on experience- so i know what i have to manage
again nothing personal , but let me know what company so i can make sure my mother isn't in their care.
subaqua
What’s the point
- Location
- Leytonstone
TBF what did you expect?
Sara_H
Guru
I think what could be helpful is if you look at some vacancies that are currently advertised. They all require several years experience in the speciality.
subaqua
What’s the point
- Location
- Leytonstone
No I am not trying to make you look an arse. I replied to a post and opined that to manage something you should be able to do that. if you can't take a critique then one could opine that you really are not cut out for management. sadly I do have a lot of experience of the care sector. one of my first Jobs was installing patient call systems into a nursing home.
I also spent 6 months vetting care homes to put my mother in . At that point we needed a home that would look after a person with early onset dementias of an undiagnoised nature. ( still are undiagnosed) the management of the home my mother is in is 2nd to none, allof the managers are qualified nurses with 20 plus yrs of nursing behind them, and are still hands on. the care level is top notch and i am confident my mum is being cared for properly
subaqua
What’s the point
- Location
- Leytonstone
Oh dear , a persecution complex isn't a good thing for
1) a manager to have
2) a care home manager to have
if you really think i follow you round on CC then you do have some serious problems you ought to get dealt with
Sara_H
Guru
I'm not judging you at all, bit I am rather concerned that you think it appropriate that a nurse with no post reg experience is in a position to manage a care home. That would be putting residents in a very precarious position and yourself in a professionally suicidal one.
It's a bad idea, please rethink.
Sara_H
Guru
I think it is you that speaks bollocks.
I've been a nurse since 1992, I don't know of anyone who has been able to secure a management position without several years experience. I think it would be seriously unethical for any company to employ a newly qualified nurse to manage a care home. But having looked at the situations vacant, I think you're a bit mixed up, because they all require several years experience.
Psycolist
NINJA BYKALIST
- Location
- North Essex
Not the right place for this discussion but I think you got off lightly so far with this thread. Any further defence of your position will only alienate more people. Quit while your losing.
OP
OP
Rohloff_Brompton_Rider
Formerly just_fixed
Eh? Mind your own business.
CopperCyclist
Veteran
Can't speak for the care sector at all, however very similar things happen with the policing sector. There are good gaffers, and there are bad gaffers. There are gaffers that have worked their way up whilst doing the job on the street, and there are fast tracked ones that have worked in back office projects and given presentations.
The groups show a rather clear and obvious correlation between themselves.
I find the OPs method of dealing with the disagreement of most quite worrying for someone seeking a management role too... deleting everything and pretend it didn't happen...
