Tour de France 2025 (CONTAINS SPOILERS!)

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Mo1959

Legendary Member
Anyone know if this means it will start at the original time and finish early or will it be a later start?
 

Lanterne Rogue

Well-Known Member
Aged like milk 😉. Although if Lipo were Onley I can't help feeling that Onley would be praised for his panache and Lipo would be accused of Zubeldia-ing his way on to the podium.
Great break-out tour for both.

I don't really think that's fair - it'd still be a bit baffling.

I do wonder if Lipo got suckered into a "let's cunningly split our riders to force Onley to do something silly" strategy that was only likely to benefit Roglic though. Feels like the sort of thing a wily old fox would lure a young tyro into...
 

Adam4868

Legendary Member
More a tactical disaster from the team car....maybe he should have rode defensively and let Rogla take all the risks to try and win the stage.But hey he's young and fiery....I like it that he gave it his all !
No risk no glory.
 

T4tomo

Legendary Member
The loss of the Saises is huge in terms of how the stage can be raced.
Any chance of a Visma ambush went with it as throwing riders up the road needs, well, roads.
It will probably be a manic free for all up the Col du Pre, followed by some sort of regrouping in the valley.

To be fair that chance went on Ventoux (arguably before) where it was very apparent that Pog is the stronger rider and Vin ain't going to drop him.

Can Onley get 23 seconds on Lipo- that is the question.... after yesterday it doesn't need anything mad from OO, it may be that his usual modus of following Pog and Vin as far as he can will work if Lipo has tired legs
 

stage hunter

Active Member
To be fair that chance went on Ventoux (arguably before) where it was very apparent that Pog is the stronger rider and Vin ain't going to drop him.

Can Onley get 23 seconds on Lipo- that is the question.... after yesterday it doesn't need anything mad from OO, it may be that his usual modus of following Pog and Vin as far as he can will work if Lipo has tired legs

Depends on how Lipo recovers. I suspect that we will see a return to the before yesterday usual high mountain result of Lipo being a little ahead of Onley.
 

gsk82

Active Member
I don't really think that's fair - it'd still be a bit baffling.

I do wonder if Lipo got suckered into a "let's cunningly split our riders to force Onley to do something silly" strategy that was only likely to benefit Roglic though. Feels like the sort of thing a wily old fox would lure a young tyro into...

I reckon he was going for a stage win. This forum seems to ignore the value of stage wins.
 

Dogtrousers

Kilometre nibbler
Right, important implications of the route change.

The half-way point for taking the Velogames breakaway points will be 5km into the descent from the Cormet de Roselend.
 

T4tomo

Legendary Member
I reckon he was going for a stage win. This forum seems to ignore the value of stage wins.

The chances of Vin passively letting Lipo eat into his buffer by taking a stage win were zero though. Both he and Pog were happy to let BenOC & Rubio have some rope as no GC threat, if Lipo had managed to bridge (rather than fade) then all three would have been chased down, as OO knew so he could afford to just stay with the GC group and see how it played out.
 

Dorset Boy

Well-Known Member
Yesterday was possibly the toughest Tour stage this century, so today will be all about who has or hasn't recovered well overnight.
There has to be a lot of action on the Col du Pre and then some suicidal descending of the Cormet to Bourg.
 

Lanterne Rogue

Well-Known Member
Yesterday was possibly the toughest Tour stage this century, so today will be all about who has or hasn't recovered well overnight.
There has to be a lot of action on the Col du Pre and then some suicidal descending of the Cormet to Bourg.

Nah, there was that really long flat stage a few years back where one poor sod went off the front, everybody said "thanks", they tried to soft pedal to be caught, the peloton slowed up to make sure they weren't, and we finished about ninety minutes behind the slowest schedule.

Speaking strictly as a viewer THAT was the toughest stage this century. Deep vein thrombosis alone must have killed dozens.
 
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