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KneesUp

Guru
My approach to buying cars is generally to buy an old-ish car outright (5 to 10 years old depending on available cash) but the top spec one of the given model, and then drive it until the wheels fall off.

The previous family bus was a Picasso diesel, which I sold because the interior was falling apart and the engine sounded like a builders van. And I never really liked it anyway (but the massive opening glass roof was nice) Before that I had a Seat that was written off and a Fiat that fell apart almost spontaneously, like a clown car. So the decisions on getting rid of those was easy.

The current car is a Honda which has now covered somewhere north of 200k miles, and seems to be not so much falling apart as getting to a time of life where stuff is wearing out. It's has new coil packs - not a huge expense, and can fail on any car. It's has new driveshafts - but they're done now so should be good for another 150k miles. It's had some suspension stuff - because that wears out. It uses a tiny bit of oil. It now needs a starter motor.

But everything else works - the climate control controls the climate, the auto wipers wipe, the heated seats heat, the stereo is stereo and the navigation navigates. And when it starts (which it only does currently if you bump it ...) it runs very smoothly and efficiently.

It's just that it's cost me a few hundred quid a month for the past few months - although that is offset by it costing me sod all in maintenance other than servicing for years previously.

At what point do you think 'sod it, I'll just replace it' and stop thinking 'well it should be ok again now'?
 

Drago

Legendary Member
At what point do you think 'sod it, I'll just replace it' and stop thinking 'well it should be ok again now'?
When it costs more in money and time each month than the repayments on a replacement.

Of course, if youre buying the next one outright thats harder to gauge - when it becomes a real pain/waste of time to keep going without it while it is fixed would be the point to wave adios?

Not in your case, but I do chuckle when someone's car needs, say, a grand spending on it and they proclaim "its not worth it", only to then saddle themselves with £400+ monthly repayments instead. People can be so financially illiterate its unreal.
 
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KneesUp

Guru
when it becomes a real pain/waste of time to keep going without it while it is fixed would be the point to wave adios
Well that’s part of the complication now. I don’t *actually* need it at all because I cycle to work and we have another car, albeit it far too small for two adults and a teenager to go more than a few miles. But on days like today where the OH was at work and me and the kid wanted to go out, and it was cold and rainy, another car is useful.

I’ve had to call breakdown twice this year, having not done so for almost a decade prior). Fortunately both times were within 10 minutes of home so weren’t too annoying but I worry that the “we’ve broken down with a car full of holiday stuff, in the middle of of Dartmoor, at night” is now ore likely.
 

presta

Legendary Member
At 15 years and 180,000 miles, my Accord got to the stage where I decided it wasn't worth keeping it on the road, but in retrospect, I wish I had. Ultimately, it set in motion a chain of events that led to me never driving again.
 

diplodicus

Active Member
I love Hondas
We had an FRV that the clutch went at 220,000 miles. Our trusted mechanic told us that the parts cost more than the value of the car, so we scrapped it. Such a shame as everything else on the car worked fautlessly and I was miffed not to get it to a quarter of a million miles^_^

Needless to say we now have another Honda
 

briantrumpet

Legendary Member
Location
Devon & Die
Structural issues with rust are my general "Nope!" moment, and meant the end of my previous car, a Clio that had cost me £2000, did 10 years and 100k miles (ending on about 180k), and never broke down. Current Nissan (Almera, 2003, cost £700 about eight years ago) has had a new clutch, coil packs, drive belt, still under 100k miles. CBA to refill the aircon, front passenger electric window doesn't work, but no rust issues so far. Would guess a one-off bill of over £500 would cause me to ponder, given how few miles I do a year (<1000), but as long as it's cheap, I'll keep it.
 
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Jameshow

Guru
Engine. Gearbox and rust are the biggies...

But then 4 tyres, discs and pads can take budget car off the uneconomic cliff. ..

Finally a car that has a impossible to find electric fault can be an open ended cheque book.... I had a A4 2 6 V6 like that. Lovely car but had the Audi specialist stumped...🤔
 

Gunk

Guru
Location
Oxford
I used to do the same, buy them 3-4 years old and keep them far too long. IMO 130000 miles is the tipping point, worth nothing second hand and the bills start to end up being more in a year than the car is worth.

I lease an electric car now through my Ltd company so car is changed every 2-3 years. Our second car is a 9 year old Citigo but that only done 25000 miles.

I’ve wasted so much money on cars over the years, it’s nice now not to really care about them any more.
 
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steveindenmark

Legendary Member
I replace mine when the cost to get it through its inspection every 2 years becomes excessive.

I had a Kia Picanto for 10 years and had no problems with it on a day to day basis.

When it came time to replace it I thought I would have a change. But I ended up with another Kia Picanto. The improvements they have made in 10 years makes it a different car.

I have heated seats, Cruise control, Bluetooth. gps, so many buttons on the steering wheel, I have not used half of them. A great little car.
 
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