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mustang1

Legendary Member
Location
London, UK
Whenever is see someone/software/car clock display/etc show a hybrid 12-hour/24-hour time display.

For example, the clock will show 08:00pm where it really should be 8:00pm or 20:00. 08:00 is correct, but 08:00am is not (there should be no leading 0).
 

Electric_Andy

Heavy Metal Fan
Location
Plymouth
Virgin media (other companies probably do the same). I had my renewal through, it basically says "keep what you've got (M350 at £51/month) and we're raising it £7 from April, then £9 the next year". That's what we are stuck with until OpenReach get to us.

But in the next line they say:
"Or grab an upgrade: M150 M200 - £47/month". The strikethrough speed is not what we already have, they are trying to make me look at it and think "great, an upgrade, for cheaper, I'll have that", when in fact they're offering slightly cheaper contract for a much slower speed. Do they think people are stupid?! I hate them
 

mustang1

Legendary Member
Location
London, UK

AI Overview
In 12-hour format, you should not use a leading zero for single-digit PM numbers. A leading zero (e.g., 07:00 PM) is associated with the 24-hour clock (e.g., 07:00 or 19:00), and its use with "PM" can cause confusion.
Correct formatting in the 12-hour clock
Use single digits for hours 1 through 9: The standard and most common practice is to write hours from 1 through 9 as a single digit.
Correct: 7:00 PM
Incorrect: 07:00 PM
Do not use leading zeros for PM numbers: Including a leading zero can be confusing because it is standard for the 24-hour clock and can be mistaken for the wrong time of day.
Correct: 1:30 PM, 9:15 PM
Incorrect: 01:30 PM, 09:15 PM
Consistent formatting is key
Across different formats, consistency is the most important rule.
For 12-hour times: Stick to single digits for hours 1–9.
For 24-hour times: Use leading zeros for hours 00 through 09 to maintain a consistent two-digit hour format. For example, 9:45 AM becomes 09:45, and 7:00 PM becomes 19:00.
 

briantrumpet

Legendary Member
Location
Devon & Die
Virgin media (other companies probably do the same). I had my renewal through, it basically says "keep what you've got (M350 at £51/month) and we're raising it £7 from April, then £9 the next year". That's what we are stuck with until OpenReach get to us.

But in the next line they say:
"Or grab an upgrade: M150 M200 - £47/month". The strikethrough speed is not what we already have, they are trying to make me look at it and think "great, an upgrade, for cheaper, I'll have that", when in fact they're offering slightly cheaper contract for a much slower speed. Do they think people are stupid?! I hate them

They all seem to be playing the same game at the mo, with baked-in way-above-inflation rises through the contract, with no justification other than they can. I'm out of contract at the moment, waiting to see where the non-contract price goes.

Conversely my French (no contract) mobile provider constantly improves the offer every few months, and I'm now on 300Gb/month for 9.80€, and with a decent speed (about 50Mb/s), I'm certainly not going to connect via the fibre shysters.
 

Dag Hammar

Über Member
Location
Essex
Whenever is see someone/software/car clock display/etc show a hybrid 12-hour/24-hour time display.

For example, the clock will show 08:00pm where it really should be 8:00pm or 20:00. 08:00 is correct, but 08:00am is not (there should be no leading 0).

I tend to agree with you so below is an item for sale that might interest you.
 

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Then turn it into a pdf that requires some other app or something to fill it in

I once got an interview for an IT job
the interviewer said that I was picked for interview simply because I was the only person who managed to fil in the application form using a computer
I had got the PDF into Word and filled it in there
then converted that into a PDF again and attached it to the email response

I told them that that is why they needed me

I didn;t get the job - but I think I was close
 

ColinJ

Puzzle game procrastinator!
I keep forgetting that I have a super new tablet with a keyboard case and... OFFS!!! :banghead:
(I have now switched to the new tablet! :laugh:)

... and spending ages typing out long messages on the old tablet's onscreen keyboard.

I am giving the old one away but have carried on using it from habit because I haven't got the new one completely set up yet.
 

Alex321

Guru
Location
South Wales
AI Overview
In 12-hour format, you should not use a leading zero for single-digit PM numbers. A leading zero (e.g., 07:00 PM) is associated with the 24-hour clock (e.g., 07:00 or 19:00), and its use with "PM" can cause confusion.
Correct formatting in the 12-hour clock
Use single digits for hours 1 through 9: The standard and most common practice is to write hours from 1 through 9 as a single digit.
Correct: 7:00 PM
Incorrect: 07:00 PM
Do not use leading zeros for PM numbers: Including a leading zero can be confusing because it is standard for the 24-hour clock and can be mistaken for the wrong time of day.
Correct: 1:30 PM, 9:15 PM
Incorrect: 01:30 PM, 09:15 PM
Consistent formatting is key
Across different formats, consistency is the most important rule.
For 12-hour times: Stick to single digits for hours 1–9.
For 24-hour times: Use leading zeros for hours 00 through 09 to maintain a consistent two-digit hour format. For example, 9:45 AM becomes 09:45, and 7:00 PM becomes 19:00.

And who decided all that?

You didn't answer my question of why? you just listed the rules as you have gathered them from somewhere.
 

No Ta Doctor

Über Member
And who decided all that?

You didn't answer my question of why? you just listed the rules as you have gathered them from somewhere.

Clarity of format. The leading 0 in 08:00 is used in the 24hr clock to signify that it's a 24 hr clock, and it's not 8 in the evening. 8:00 am is how this is signified in the 12 hr clock. Combining the two like 08:00 am is a confusion of the two systems and leads to lack of clarity, as if people see 08:00 without the am after it having become used to it, they won't automatically know it's a 24hr clock anymore, as the "language" of the 24 hr clock has been stolen. It's especially bad if it's 08:00 pm being used, as this is shouting 8 in the morning in one "language" and 8 in the evening in the other.
 

mustang1

Legendary Member
Location
London, UK
And who decided all that?

You didn't answer my question of why? you just listed the rules as you have gathered them from somewhere.

When I was a kid, my maths teacher taught me the same thing, so I grew up with those rules. As I became older and my critical reasoning came more to the foreground, those rules seem logical to me.

I'm not a big fan of redundant info. For example, if 08:00pm is the same at 8:00pm, then I see no reason to have the leading 0. It's a bit like when someone says to me:
"He is tall, so he is not short." Well, they don't need to say the "not short" bit because the "he is tall" has already covered that information. Kind of same thing with the clock.
 
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