Two-wheeled trolls...

[bpsmith]

In case it wasn't already clear, I ride on the roads, so I would be part of the 61%. Thanks for the pointer to the 2013 figure, but please refrain from attributing opinions to others incorrectly.

Did the study actually say that the 39% don't actually cycle on the road then? Or did it say that they Think it's dangerous?

 

[mjr]

Did the study actually say that the 39% don't actually cycle on the road then? Or did it say that they Think it's dangerous?

That they don't, as far as I know. I've not bought the full report.

 

[bpsmith]

That they don't, as far as I know. I've not bought the full report.

Exactly. Can assume anything you like from that. Knowing the context of the questions would mean a lot more.

I would state that I think the roads are dangerous for cyclists. I would say the same for drivers and pedestrians. It wouldn't stop me being any of them or using said roads though.

 

[Drago]

The roads are utterly benign. It's the fools that use them that present the danger.

 

[classic33]

If they want us to overtake on the right when appropriate (when you normally would), then putting a sign saying "CYCLISTS" which can be read when nothing else can be on the left of the bus seems a bit stupid... which is why I thought it was simply an announcement of their notorious no-bikes-not-even-folders policy and didn't look closely enough.


The lights are red and white, so isn't that stopped but in reverse gear? It can't be night because the cycle has no lights. So it's not to ride up the left of a stopped bus?

Aren't most lenses now clear with the colour coming from the lighting source within?
Most bus companies now have daylight running lights in use on their vehicles. The six local ones do, which would explain the rear lights being on.

 

[classic33]

Makes a nice change from around here, where Norfolk Green (now Stagecoach in Norfolk) have only "no entry to cyclists" signs on the back.

Why a stock photo, that's over a year old, if its that common?
Stagecoach Norfolk Green
Location: Kings Lynn Bus Stn
Route: on North Wootton Three (2)
Fleet Number: 25119
Registration Number:YJ55BKO, 'Chris & George Rockingham'

Taken on September 19, 2014
Camera: Canon PowerShot SX170 IS
ISO: 400, ƒ/3.5 @1/1000

 

[classic33]

If it's a rear view, why are half the lights white?

Just so you're aware of what the front end of that particular bus looks like.

 

[BEHMOTH66]

ok lets put this simply who was in the wrong?? all saying about bad attitude. did the bus driver have a bad attitude? was the bus driver on the wrong side of the road? so who was wrong ??? yes cyclist was stubborn but he had every right by the letter of the law to take primary as this was his right. The bus driver thought its only a cyclist I'm bigger and faster and if I hit him I will maybe scratch a vehicle that is not even mine. The bus driver was using 38 tonnes of metal to intimidate. I know people may not like the guy who posted it but come on if we stopped for every car that wanted to get past us would we even ride in an urban area ever again?

Yes the cyclist was going up a small hill but that's the last place you want to stop. If this was half the cyclist on here you'd all do the same thing, just because you don't like this cyclist(and you've added other videos of him ect) you slate the guy

 

[summerdays]

The cyclist doesn't seem to swing quickly in the direction of the kerb which is what I would do if I thought it was very close, and if they wanted the bus to wait then they could have been in a better road position to make sure there wasn't a bus sized gap beside him.

Neither side is "right", they both could have done more to have had a better pass.

I've said if it was me I would probably slow down, and let the bus pass, he was already overtaking cars, but if I decided to go then I would have been further out in the road.

 

[bpsmith]

I haven't seen any of his other videos. I still think he is a nobber!

Bus was over the broken white line. No law broken there. He was passing before the cyclist was there. He therefore had primary at that point. Cyclist didn't give way either and blasted ridiculous horn. Driver doesn't appear to have reacted. I have no doubt that the driver would have done the same if a car was approaching. Would you post that on YouTube?

Neither party was really in the wrong. That's the point. It's a non starter. This is what the real world like to call "life".

 

[BEHMOTH66]

A broken white line. This marks the centre of the road. When this line lengthens and the gaps shorten, it means that there is a hazard ahead. Do not cross it unless you can see the road is clear and wish to overtake or turn off.

so from the highway code do not cross it unless you can see the road ahead is clear ...which it is not

 

[summerdays]

A broken white line. This marks the centre of the road. When this line lengthens and the gaps shorten, it means that there is a hazard ahead. Do not cross it unless you can see the road is clear and wish to overtake or turn off.

so from the highway code do not cross it unless you can see the road ahead is clear ...which it is not

It was when he started to move around the parked cars, he was already in that position as the cyclist turned into the road...

 

[Tin Pot]

Is this thread still going?

It's a non-event. Clearly. Kick up a fuss about the million other events that are actually dangerous. If you harp on about these minutiae people will stop listening.

 

[winjim]

yes cyclist was stubborn but he had every right by the letter of the law to take primary as this was his right.

The cyclist wasn't in primary. If he had been, maybe the bus driver would have stopped for him. As it was, the cyclist was in secondary, which the bus driver may have taken as an indication that he was happy to be passed.

The cyclist has lousy road position, in this and other videos.

 

[martint235]

The cyclist doesn't seem to swing quickly in the direction of the kerb which is what I would do if I thought it was very close, and if they wanted the bus to wait then they could have been in a better road position to make sure there wasn't a bus sized gap beside him.

Neither side is "right", they both could have done more to have had a better pass.

I've said if it was me I would probably slow down, and let the bus pass, he was already overtaking cars, but if I decided to go then I would have been further out in the road.

This. Neither side is right but the bus is already in position when the cyclist enters the road. Yes I would have done things differently, I'd have waited. It wouldn't have taken up too much of my day. I wouldn't have had a video to share with the the world of me being "bullied" though.

As I believe someone said upthread, if you put yourself into confrontation with larger vehicles in that way one day you'll wake up in a hospital bed saying to your worried loved ones "but I was RIGHT!"