U lock practicalities

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But dont, as i saw once in putney, wrap the cable through the wheels and then just use the metal d lock to link the cable loops. Doh!
And worse, in Hammersmith there is (or was) a U-lock locked to a stand, still threaded through the two cut ends of the cable. Breaks your heart to know someone lost their bike, even though they had the kit to keep it.
 
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jay clock

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Hampshire UK
I park a Trek hybrid in Waterloo station with one of these http://www.wiggle.co.uk/kryptonite-...|pcrid|67090840382|pkw||pmt||prd|5360498951uk

I have given up on the cable as it is a bit of a fiddle. Just the lock around the seat tube and the stand. Front wheel impossible to get to and so far back wheel fine. Bike is wrapped in extra wide electrical tape 50mm wide. https://www.ebay.co.uk/i/2626996424...=1007237&device=c&campaignid=856227598&crdt=0 Looks crap. Large wire basket on the back for rucksack to save back sweatage. Ideal
 
OP
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If not he's got a qr on the front, just get one of the skewer sets that require the bike to be upside down to remove. If it's locked it's fine, and still serviceable.
Have you got a link to them I was looking for them before but couldn't find them?
 

Levo-Lon

Guru
Are the wheels being nicked Or are they being removed as a deterrent?
People dont tend to nick half a bike
 

si_c

Guru
Location
Wirral
Are the wheels being nicked Or are they being removed as a deterrent?
People dont tend to nick half a bike

If it's not bolted down they'll take it. I regularly see bikes in the city centre which have had their wheels nicked. And saddle. And handlebars.
 
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Thanks for everyone's input. I'm sending him off with the Abus Granite to go through the back wheel and seat tube and around the bike stand and a cable extension for the front wheel plus I've bought a QR replacement which needs a special Allen key to untighten it. It seems not much has changed really since the days the U-lock was first introduced, except for angle grinders. I shall keep the Knog and use it in situations which need less security. It is just that bit smaller and lighter than the Citadel or the Abus so a little more convenient for touring etc...
 

andrew_s

Legendary Member
Location
Gloucester
A more general alternative to the Pitlock and such are Hexlox, which are an update on the old trick of supergluing a ball bearing into your allen bolt sockets, allowing you to secure thing like your wheels, saddle, forks, or in my case, dynamo lights. Having secure ancillaries means you just need 1 good lock that will do frame and anchor point.

The hexlox are magnetic inserts for 4, 5 or 6 mm allen sockets that block out the allen key, and which are easily removable with a small (keyring) magnetic key that's specific to your set of inserts, and which are not easily removable by other means, such as pliers, tweezers, picks, or external magnets.
Lighter than any other option, not cheap, but no more costly than Pitlock etc.
 

Wobblers

Euthermic
Location
Minkowski Space
There is an awful lot to gain if the padlock is short as in the problem experienced by the OP

The method is also recommended by Sheldon Brown who considers that the hacksaw a lot of work, and not something that happens in the real world

The problem is that a tealeaf who isn't in the know might see your wheel locked bike as easy - and will end up trashing wheel and frame trying to get it. Probably the most essential function of a lock is deterrence - you want your bike to look difficult to get so that the sumbag will pass over it looking for something easier. The Sheldon technique defeats that important element of protection as it simply doesn't look very secure.

The other problem is that, as @User's video shows, it really isn't difficult at all to steal a bike locked in that way.
 

slowmotion

Quite dreadful
Location
lost somewhere
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I have heard of taking the front wheel out but never seen it in this area, do many people do that and wot about your carbon fork on the tarmac?
I take off the front wheel every time. It only takes a couple of seconds. With a medium sized D lock you can get the frame, back and front wheels attached to a bike stand or some other bit of road hardware. The more you have cluttering up the lock, the less room there is for people to start levering/jacking it, as has been pointed out.

Edit: unfortunately, these have been a bit of a game-changer...
 
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KnackeredBike

I do my own stunts
Edit: unfortunately, these have been a bit of a game-changer...
I am not sure it is really a game changer. Opportunist thieves will not walk around with one in their bag, because if plod stops them they are in trouble for going equipped. Someone targeting your bike will not be deterred but they will always be prepared with the right tools anyway.

My general strategy is to park the bike somewhere so busy any theft would draw attention, or so quiet it is unlikely a bike thief will be passing. These are surprisingly easy to find, for instance, when I work in hospitals I tend to park them in rooftop gardens or chained to the top of fire exit staircase banisters. Obscurity is good.
 
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