UCI Points (relegation/promotion) '23-'25

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No Ta Doctor

No Ta Doctor

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I've just seen that FirstCycling have a LIVE promotion/relegation points tracker (PCS only do weekly updates)
https://firstcycling.com/ranking.php?h=2&rank=1&y=2025-33&uci3yearteamranking=1

According to that, Uno-X have now overtaken Cofidis!
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I've just seen that FirstCycling have a LIVE promotion/relegation points tracker (PCS only do weekly updates)
https://firstcycling.com/ranking.php?h=2&rank=1&y=2025-33&uci3yearteamranking=1

According to that, Uno-X have now overtaken Cofidis!
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Can you tell if points are being added as they're thought to be won, or only once the UCI credits them at the end of stage races?
 
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It seems Cofidis have inched ahead by 11 whole points! That's the equivalent of a 15th place and two top 25s in a 1.1 race

Today they go head to head in a fairly stacked Bretagne Classic (1.WT) where there's 300 points for the winner, there are points all the way to 60th and a single top 30 placing for Uno-X would cancel the difference between them

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UNO-X back above Cofidis. Looking at the remaining schedules of both teams, I favour UNO-X. Cofidis are riding races where more points are potentially available but harder to pick up. UNO-X should comfortably outscore them by picking up easier points at lesser races.

Weirdly, this is good news for Arkea (should they not fold) as they would then have a chance of being one of the 2 PT teams to get automatic invites to the Grand Tours. They're currently below Tudor but above Cofidis in this year's ranking and it's close between all 3. Pidcock could have Q36.5 entering that discussion too.
 
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Things are tight as a gnat's chuff here in the arse-end of the season

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Uno-X just 331 points ahead now after Cofidis managed to pull some back, mainly through the Tour of Taihu Lake where they took 2nd on GC for 150 tasty UCI morsels

Cofidis will still need an impressive finish, even though they have two more races than Uno-X to ride: Tour of Guanxi and Japan Cup. These races have quite a strong startlist given that some riders see them as more akin to punishment duty at the end of a long season, so they're not guaranteed a big haul even though they're 2.WT and 1.Pro respectively. Cofidis got six points on the first stage, where Fernando Gaviria (amongst others) managed to get ahead of them in the sprint, which is pretty good for someone I'd assumed had retired.

Both teams ride the Walls Viennetta races (Giro del Veneto tomorrow, Veneto Classic on Sunday, both 1.Pro), where they'll hope to pick up the crumbs that UAE leave behind

The last two days have also seen the absolute back marker race of the season, the Chrono des Nations (1.1) gain a couple of entries. Uno-X were first to put names down, with Søren Wærenskjold and Carl-Frederik Bévort - the first an eminently capable TTer, the second more a young hopeful (21 yr old, some TT wins at u23 and Jnr, including DK champs at both levels and 6th in the Worlds u23 that Wærenskjold won in Australia, when he was just 18)

To combat this last minute points threat, Cofidis's Alexis Renard will be spending the next four days intensively studying what a TT bike is, how to ride one and why aero is important. His previous best TT result was 20th at a Tour de Suisse and he's yet to earn a UCI point in a race of truth.

I think it's Uno-X's, barring a real change of fortune and form for Cofidis
 
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Cofidis have been chipping away with some points from stage results (about 40) at Tour of Guangxi but it's not looking like it will help them much in the end. They also picked up what looked like a nice 70 points in the Giro Delboy Walls Viennetta, until you notice that Uno-X got Abrahamsen to 3rd and Kulset to 8th and outscored them by 105 points. That's the sort of end of season result that will calm any Norwegian nerves.

Current gap: 401 points

Incidentally, there could have been a lot more points on offer if a certain overfunded team full of superstars weren't intent on hoovering each and ever minor race up to pad their win total. A UAE 1-2 with Del Toro and Sivakov can't have been all that popular amongst those fighting to save what what remains of Italian cycling...

Cofidis have just two more stages of Guangxi (with very little chance in the GC I think) and the Japan Cup to close the gap on Uno-X before Sunday's head-to-heads at Veneto Classic (1.Pro) and Chronos des Nations (1.1)
 

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Weirdly, this is good news for Arkea (should they not fold) as they would then have a chance of being one of the 2 PT teams to get automatic invites to the Grand Tours. They're currently below Tudor but above Cofidis in this year's ranking and it's close between all 3. Pidcock could have Q36.5 entering that discussion too.
It's the top 3 PT teams that get automatic invites in 2026.

Arkea, in the unlikely event that they keep going, will now be scrapping for wildcard invites along with Caja Rural et al. Pidders' Vuelta points have made a lot of difference since you posted.
Cofidis have to hope that the Lotto/Intermarche merger goes through, or they will also be looking for wildcard entries next year.

The top 2025 points for those teams currently outside the top 18 of the 3 year ranking are currently...
Uno-X - 10471
Tudor - 9893
Q36.5 - 8136
Cofidis - 7251
Arkea - 7190

Assuming the top 18 teams eligible for WT status get it, and there's nothing oddball like IPT being denied 'cos politics...

If the Lotto/Intermarche merger goes through, then Uno-X get bumped from 19th to 18th and become a World Team, and Cofidis get automatic invites to all WT races as the 3rd team in the PT ranking for the previous year (2025). Repeating the ranking in 2026 for 2027 automatic invites may be difficult though.
If Cofidis manage to pip Uno-X, they are set for the next 3 years, and it's not too bad for Uno-X as they shouldn't have too much difficulty keeping the automatic invites going.

If the Lotto/Intermarche merger doesn't go through, and neither team folds, both Uno-X and Cofidis will remain Pro-Teams, the automatic invites for 2026 go to Uno-X, Tudor and Q36.5, and Cofidis are looking for wildcard invites.
 
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It's the top 3 PT teams that get automatic invites in 2026.

Arkea, in the unlikely event that they keep going, will now be scrapping for wildcard invites along with Caja Rural et al. Pidders' Vuelta points have made a lot of difference since you posted.
Cofidis have to hope that the Lotto/Intermarche merger goes through, or they will also be looking for wildcard entries next year.

The top 2025 points for those teams currently outside the top 18 of the 3 year ranking are currently...
Uno-X - 10471
Tudor - 9893
Q36.5 - 8136
Cofidis - 7251
Arkea - 7190

Assuming the top 18 teams eligible for WT status get it, and there's nothing oddball like IPT being denied 'cos politics...

If the Lotto/Intermarche merger goes through, then Uno-X get bumped from 19th to 18th and become a World Team, and Cofidis get automatic invites to all WT races as the 3rd team in the PT ranking for the previous year (2025). Repeating the ranking in 2026 for 2027 automatic invites may be difficult though.
If Cofidis manage to pip Uno-X, they are set for the next 3 years, and it's not too bad for Uno-X as they shouldn't have too much difficulty keeping the automatic invites going.

If the Lotto/Intermarche merger doesn't go through, and neither team folds, both Uno-X and Cofidis will remain Pro-Teams, the automatic invites for 2026 go to Uno-X, Tudor and Q36.5, and Cofidis are looking for wildcard invites.

All the paperwork for the Lotto-Intermarche merger is filed, so it's definitely happening. If there was some reason they weren't allowed to merge then one of them at least would be going to the wall.

Are you sure it's the top three that get GT invites? This season the two two got GT invites, but the third got invites for the rest of the WT races, so there have always been three teams getting automatic invites
 
Good morning,

The most disappointing ranking for me is Tudor Pro Cycling.

For those not into watches, Tudor is Rolex’s economy brand, mostly £3k-£5k watches with a few at around £2k.

In the past they have used David Beckham and Lady GaGa as brand ambassadors which gives a hint at their target market.

In other words a luxury brand that could be a sponsor for years in the same way as tabacco companies were or Rolex is in other sports.

But will they want to continue if they fail to make it as a WT team? They may have been willing to be a PT tour as a way of getting in as the major sponsor but does being a second tier team sit well with brand image once the we’re the new kids on the block excuse/reason goes?

Surely they are not the sort of sponsor that cycling wants to lose and there aren’t many/any other teams that make sense for them to be a co sponsor, at least in my mind.

Pinnerello and Tudor would seem to make sense after that I am struggling.

Bye

Ian
 
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Good morning,

The most disappointing ranking for me is Tudor Pro Cycling.

For those not into watches, Tudor is Rolex’s economy brand, mostly £3k-£5k watches with a few at around £2k.

In the past they have used David Beckham and Lady GaGa as brand ambassadors which gives a hint and their target market.

In other words a luxury brand that could be a sponsor for years in the same way as tabacco companies were or Rolex is in other sports.

But will they want to continue if they fail to make it as a WT team? They may have been willing to be a PT tour as a way of getting in as the major sponsor but does being a second tier team sit well with brand image once the we’re the new kids on the block excuse/reason goes?

Surely they are not the sort of sponsor that cycling wants to lose and there aren’t many/any other teams that make sense for them to be a co sponsor, at least in my mind.

Pinnerallo and Tudor would seem to make sense after that I am struggling.

Bye

Ian

I think that if they really wanted to make WT then they should have started a lot earlier - their recruitment for 2023 was ok but with no real statement of intent. I don't know what length agreement they had with Tudor, but the team do have a ride that's under contract for the 2029 season, shopefully quite a bit longer!
 

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I think they put most if not all of their eggs into the Marc Hirschi basket, which hasn't really paid off. Storer is probably their best rider now. They are not hoovering up "easy" sprint points and now Isaac del Toro has emerged to eat Hirschi's dinner at Italian chippers.
 
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