Under Seige. I feel completely exhausted.

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GrumpyGregry

Here for rides.
I must have passed through middle age, I am not as anxious as I used to be. I am not sure what defines middle class though.
[CONTROVERSIAL]I think, in this context, it could be about having something; status, possessions, money, in excess of what one actually needs, that one is so attached to that that one is afraid of losing it.[/CONTROVERSIAL]
 

screenman

Squire
[CONTROVERSIAL]I think, in this context, it could be about having something; status, possessions, money, in excess of what one actually needs, that one is so attached to that that one is afraid of losing it.[/CONTROVERSIAL]

So owning a house would make you middle class?
 

Mr Celine

Discordian
I feel completely drained. Our lives seem to be under constant siege from everyone else, politicians, criminals, developers, lobbyists. It's just exhausting to constantly be alert to the next threat, to constantly be ready to respond to their every move, to constantly be trying to anticipate their next move. Some examples.

Our council tax is finally increasing but it's been frozen for the last ten years. Our house should be in a higher band after we built a huge extension but houses in Scotland don't get rebanded unless sold.
I often forget to put the bin out, not a problem as I don't throw out much.
Mrs Celine's income tax will increase but the extra being promised to local government after the green's intervention might just keep me in a job.
I'm glad I have investments and possessions worth stealing
There is plenty of money around which creates economic activity which leads to a lot of movement of goods, services and people, which in turn wears out the roads
Aubergines are revolting and the only courgettes I eat are the ones I grow myself. In courgette season. Which is not February.
There is so much money sloshing around that people can afford to fly so often. My back garden is peaceful because the RAF are skint and seem to have stopped low flying for now (or we aren't about to bomb anyone)
There is so much money sloshing around that developers keep trying to build things
My diesel car pays only £30 a year VED and averages 60mpg, easily offsetting any penalty charges which might be levied in a city 400 miles away that I am unlikely to ever drive in
I have so much spare cash I can afford to spend some of it on food for wild creatures which are perfectly able to fend for themselves

Is there no end ?
 

John the Monkey

Frivolous Cyclist
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"Other people have it worse" may not be the most helpful thing to say if the OP is suffering anxiety or depression - those thoughts are no more amenable to rationality than a broken leg would be to someone pointing out that there are people who don't have legs.

If the perspective has helped, ignore me - if you're feeling like you're not coping, I hope you'll seek some help.

Anyway, Café! so back to the bantz, innit tho.
 

Pat "5mph"

A kilogrammicaly challenged woman
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Location
Glasgow
I have so much spare cash I can afford to spend some of it on food for wild creatures which are perfectly able to fend for themselves
Brilliant way of putting things: so have I as a matter of fact, in spite of - see below
"Other people have it worse" may not be the most helpful thing to say if the OP is suffering anxiety or depression
Begging pardon to those who suffer from depression, reading that the OP pays in income tax, NI and council tax what I earn before deductions from my 3 jobs and still moans, makes me feel a bit of a financial failure.
Thankfully I'm not prone to depression, so I shall rejoice in feeding wild and domesticated creatures alike, while having a ball riding one of my 6 bikes :biggrin:
 

Brandane

Legendary Member
makes me feel a bit of a financial failure.
I would suggest that you are the financial SUCCESS, @Pat "5mph" . You have clearly learned how to live within your means rather than splash out on a property that puts you in financial dire straits whenever council tax rises, interest rates rise, property value drops, fuel prices rise, income drops, investments nose-dive, courgettes rise in price, and all the other variables that we know can happen when we set out our stall.
 

GrumpyGregry

Here for rides.
Middle class shop at Waitrose and take a copy of the guardian on their way out. It isn't an exact science.
Shop at Waitrose as it is the nearest with decent bike parking. Don't read The Guardian in paper form. Tend to take the free Torygraph on a Saturday for the rugby.

I'd be unashamedly middle-class but I don't have a degree.
 

winjim

Straddle the line, discord and rhyme
Middle class shop at Waitrose and take a copy of the guardian on their way out. It isn't an exact science.
Which is strange considering that Waitrose is owned by the working class, compared to say Tesco, which is owned by the middle class.
 
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