Vinyl records, original or remastered? Advice required

[raleighnut]

Not really my field but can't gelp noticing the below fundamental spikes are some 30dB below the fundamental. ie 0 .1% of the fundamental if I read it right. Presumably rumble or mains hum rather than anything to do with the note itself.

Anyhow "nodal reinforcement" - mmm?
You'd certainly not hear 35kHz even if the system could reproduce it, which it can't, and indeed shouldn't - but anyway 35kHz won't be on the record in the first place -at least, not as actual original signal.

I just looked up the spec of the cartridge I've had my eye on for a while, Denon DL110 20Hz to 45kHz.

 

[Profpointy]

I just looked up the spec of the cartridge I've had my eye on for a while, Denon DL110 20Hz to 45kHz.

Don't worry, your preamp will filter out all the high stuff so it'll work fine.

 

[raleighnut]

Don't worry, your preamp will filter out all the high stuff so it'll work fine.

If not I can use the QUAD 44s filters to do it.

 

[SpokeyDokey]

I like CD's and vinyls.

@threebikesmcginty

What, like this?

 

[Profpointy]

If not I can use the QUAD 44s filters to do it.

The quad will filter out the high stuff anyway - because it was designed by people who understand such things.

 

[Grant Fondo]

Yeah, there's a degree of compression, but compared to MP3 it's minimal indeed, and its data compression, not audio compression, and is lossless when reproduced. Audio compression depends very much on how the producer records the album, and a badly produced one is more apparent on CD because of the greater dynamic range, and a bad one can sound dreadful. The same, badly produced album can sound less bad because vinyl is very poor anyway at reproducing the frequencies most affected, so the effect to the listener is less pronounced.

Dynamic losses from the manufacturing and the playback reproduction processes on vinyl are huge, but also significant noise and very significant degradation with repeated use, not to mention inaccuracies with relying an an analogue motor to rotate the assembly at a precise speed. In terms of accurately reproducing an audio signal at any point in the spectrum vinyl doesn't compare, although I absolutely, completely, understand the appeal to enthusiasts.

MP3s, now I've mentioned them, are hideous things. I'm no audiophile, but I love music sufficiently that I can't listen to it bastardised in that way.

Agree i have had some shocking vinyl over the years...suspect it was being pirated at one time?

 

[Oxo]

I have followed this thread from the start and haven't understood more than half a dozen words though they keep going round and round in my head. The thing is, I keep being drawn back to it. I am obviously a much sadder person than I ever realised.

 

[Profpointy]

I have followed this thread from the start and haven't understood more than half a dozen words though they keep going round and round in my head. The thing is, I keep being drawn back to it. I am obviously a much sadder person than I ever realised.

In summary - a lot hi fi sales flim flam is BS and contradicts the laws of physics. And as everyone knows, "ye canna break the laws of physics"

Specifically magic expensive cables are BS. So say reproducing sound beyond the range of hearing and / or not on the record in the first place is BS.

That said good quality record players sound good, as do good quality digital sources.

 

[nickyboy]

@threebikesmcginty

What, like this?

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Nice bit of exposed pipework going on there

 

[Grant Fondo]

In summary - a lot hi fi sales flim flam is BS and contradicts the laws of physics. And as everyone knows, "ye canna break the laws of physics"

Specifically magic expensive cables are BS. So say reproducing sound beyond the range of hearing and / or not on the record in the first place is BS.

That said good quality record players sound good, as do good quality digital sources.

True enough...the mighty law of diminishing returns

 

[Profpointy]

True enough...the mighty law of diminishing returns

Or even no return whatsoever, even in theory!

 

[Grant Fondo]

Or even no return whatsoever, even in theory!

So its a marketing ploy then 100% copper etc etc with 10 layers of polymer/ kevlar shield @ £100/m ?

 

[raleighnut]

So its a marketing ploy then 100% copper etc etc with 10 layers of polymer/ kevlar shield @ £100/m ?

Fraid so, I use QED 96 strand that cost me under a quid a metre.

 

[Profpointy]

So its a marketing ploy then 100% copper etc etc with 10 layers of polymer/ kevlar shield @ £100/m ?

A pal of mine is a bit of a hi fi geek, albeit grounded in science and engineering, was telling of a hi fi show where someone was quite seriously selling little wooded blocks to lift your cables an inch off the floor, presumably to reduce interference from, umm, the carpet. Wtaf?

 

[raleighnut]

A pal of mine is a bit of a hi fi geek, albeit grounded in science and engineering, was telling of a hi fi show where someone was quite seriously selling little wooded blocks to lift your cables an inch off the floor, presumably to reduce interference from, umm, the carpet. Wtaf?

True,

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rc...-cable&usg=AFQjCNHBkhNXjHVOTxm6xBZ7KwUsrWJ3cw