vote for election of the police and crime commissioner

[Baggy]

We do at least have one independent candidate for Devon and Cornwall who looks ok and has tackling dangerous driving as one of their priorities...

They won't stand a snowflake in Hell's chance of winning though as it's the SW and they haven't promised curfews and tagging for everyone aged between 12-18 or a policeman on every street in every village and hamlet, 24/7.

 

[Leaway2]

Which is why there are processes in place that involve legal proceedings.

it would be possible to detect the offence by reference to the corresponding number list.

By checking each ballot paper and asking who they voted for. I don't think so

There is a safeguard to prevent the ballot paper numbers on the corresponding number list being linked with the marked ballot papers.

A watermarked ballot paper would have the same effect.

At the close of poll, the corresponding number list is placed in a sealed envelope by the Presiding Officer at the polling station. The sealed envelope is then taken to the (Acting) Returning Officer. After the count has taken place, the used ballot papers are also sealed. The only occasion when the sealed packets can be opened is on the order of a judge as a result of an election petition or in furtherance of an investigation into an alleged election offence.

I am sure the East German government, General Gaddafi et al all had the same wording.
This all assumes that the "cheating" is not being done by the "them", I am not paranoid but "they" are out to get me

 

[User482]

How is this any more of a politicisation of the police that the current set up with Police Authorities, the members of whom are local councillors or 'local worthies'?

If anything, I see this as democratising the Police Authority process, which is currently opaque to say the least.

Those councillors will have had a much higher turnout than is predicted for these elections though.

 

[User482]

And that is relevant how?

Your argument about democracy.

 

[asterix]

But there is no distinction between deliberate spoils and accidental ones.

Possibly there is a 'normal' or expected number spoilt so if the figure was substantially higher it would be a message of sorts.

 

[User482]

But it wasn't addressing the point that I was making, was it? I was pointing out that being able to elect the PCC is more democratic than not being able to.

Given the low turnout in local elections generally, then your point is s bit moot.

The turnout is likely to be far lower than for local elections. Not really a victory for democracy, in my view.

 

[biggs682]

we have had our goverment issued brochure to help us through the voting process , just need info on candidates

 

[Longshot]

Not really a victory for democracy, in my view.

Maybe not, but at least people have been given the right to not bother.

 

[classic33]

Have you noticed that they write the number on your voting slip, next to your name in the register when you vote?
They can look up how you voted later.

I have never had that copy handed to me. It remains as far as I'm aware with the local electoral department.
The only mark made on any official ballot Paper, issued in an election, should be placed their by the person casting their vote. Polling Station staff have no right to mark the paper in any way.

 

[User482]

Maybe not, but at least people have been given the right to not bother.

Big deal!

 

[Maz]

I will be voting on the 15th November. No amount of scare-mongering or dont-waste-yer-time merchants will dissuade me.

 

[biggs682]

we have just viewed our choice of 5 and their blurb we were surprised to see affiliation to politacal parties for some and not others

 

[Leaway2]

I have never had that copy handed to me. It remains as far as I'm aware with the local electoral department.
The only mark made on any official ballot Paper, issued in an election, should be placed their by the person casting their vote. Polling Station staff have no right to mark the paper in any way.

They don't write on your slip, they write the number printed on your slip, next to your name in the "register".

 

[twentysix by twentyfive]

They don't write on your slip, they write the number printed on your slip, next to your name in the "register".

I've noticed that. I don't think it is sinister - but it could be in a parallel universe (or Russia).

 

[classic33]

Have you noticed that they write the number on your voting slip, next to your name in the register when you vote?
They can look up how you voted later.[/quote

They don't write on your slip, they write the number printed on your slip, next to your name in the "register".

Your vote remains private & there is no way of checking afterwards what way you voted as ballot papers are destroyed.