Roadrider48
Voice of the people
- Location
- Londonistan
I can only comment about my London routes. But there are a hell of a lot of RLJ's that I see on a daily basis.
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J.Primus
Senior Member
- Location
- Northerner living in London
Cars or bikes? I see more cars RLJing on my ride in. Especially at Old St roundabout.
CopperBrompton
Bicycle: a means of transport between cake-stops
- Location
- London
Yes, it is. I witnessed a very nasty accident where a pedestrian was hit and injured by a cyclist running a red light, and there have been pedestrian deaths caused by this.
Roadrider48
Voice of the people
- Location
- Londonistan
Sorry I meant bikes.
Twelve Spokes
Time to say goodbye again...
- Location
- CS 2
Same on my East London route.(cyclists)
jonny jeez
Legendary Member
- Location
- Chislehurst, Kent, UK
Sure , but my "point" isn't about the safety of others. Its about reducing the conflict.
CopperBrompton
Bicycle: a means of transport between cake-stops
- Location
- London
Yep, I agree with that. I used to RLJ safely and courteously, and stopped doing so when someone argued years ago that if we want to be treated like traffic, we have to behave like traffic. That struck me as an excellent argument and I stopped doing it the same day.
subaqua
What’s the point
- Location
- Leytonstone
I pay nothing. 88g/Km. And have all bar given up driving. Last time I drove was 2 mins last night to put wife's car on drive as she couldn't . Before that errrrrr .
I was walking down the New Kent Road home last night about 7pm and all of a sudden in front of me I saw a bicycle laying across the road. The cyclist had tried to RLJ and hadn't seen another cyclist using the cycle crossing so had to swerve to miss him and in doing so came off his bike. The cyclist got straight up and tried to get back on his bike (one of those lock in pedal ones, dunno what the proper name is) but I think he'd done something to the bike as he had to come on to the pavement and try to sort it out. He looked p'd off more than anything.
Anyway, nobody hurt bar the cyclist looking incredibly stupid and irresponsible in front of a queue of stationary traffic on the other side of the road. He was SO lucky there was no other traffic around and that he seemed to come off his bike sideways and under rather than over the handlebars. I hope he's learnt his lesson but I somehow doubt it.
Anyway, nobody hurt bar the cyclist looking incredibly stupid and irresponsible in front of a queue of stationary traffic on the other side of the road. He was SO lucky there was no other traffic around and that he seemed to come off his bike sideways and under rather than over the handlebars. I hope he's learnt his lesson but I somehow doubt it.
Crankarm
Guru
- Location
- Nr Cambridge
Don't you mean road tax?
Nope.
Crankarm
Guru
- Location
- Nr Cambridge
If cycling came under VED legislation then our bicycles would be zero rated as our bicycles emit zilch, nada, rien, nichts, zero.
Twelve Spokes
Time to say goodbye again...
- Location
- CS 2
Frood42
I know where my towel is
- Location
- Magrathea, Horsehead Nebula
So when will Kate be suggesting a "Pedestrian Tax", you know, to pay for the upkeep of those pavements that cars park and drive on...
<sarcasm> I also think it would be unfair to car drivers to make them pay even more for tax to cover the cost of my zero rated vehicle, I mean the hard done bys already pay for Band A motor vehicles... </sarcasm>
Ha. Also, who funds all these speed bumps to suposedly keep kids safe in built up areas? Maybe a pocket money tax is needed?
So when will Kate be suggesting a "Pedestrian Tax", you know, to pay for the upkeep of those pavements that cars park and drive on...
<sarcasm> I also think it would be unfair to car drivers to make them pay even more for tax to cover the cost of my zero rated vehicle, I mean the hard done bys already pay for Band A motor vehicles... </sarcasm>
Actually I'm not getting any argument for cyclists paying to use the roads. Its well established that VED has nothing to do with that, some cars are zero rated. That feels like a sop to motorists who feel hard done by. I have no objection to a voluntary license scheme in principle. Some sort of display could be bike mounted. But I do already have a car license and could drive a fairly high powered motorbike on it.
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CopperBrompton
Bicycle: a means of transport between cake-stops
- Location
- London
No, you can only ride a 125cc machine without a bike licence.