We made the posh kid cry!

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vernon

Harder than Ronnie Pickering
Location
Meanwood, Leeds
Well , not a debate I'm interested in - though I know lots of people feel very strongly about it.

British society is better in absolute terms in virtually all ways, I'm not interested in the relative terms. Once the rest of the world has food and water I might be bothered with who can afford Sky Sports and who cannot.

The point is that for all the crimes we accuse the previous generation, things haven't turned out all that bad.

So perhaps we don't need to be so idealistic of ourselves and our peers, as parents.

You really are not in touch with reality. I'm not talking about relative terms in terms of social class. I'm talking about things getting worse in absolute terms for those at the bottom.

You don't appear to meet or know that many folk who are disadvantaged in every sense of the word. I work with them on a daily basis and their lot is not an improvement over what their parents had to deal with - I'm currently teaching the offspring of the first deprived kids kids that I have taught and I'm not far off teaching the grand children. You simply have no idea what true poverty and social exclusion is.
 
You really are not in touch with reality. I'm not talking about relative terms in terms of social class. I'm talking about things getting worse in absolute terms for those at the bottom.

Like this, malnutrition and rickets due to poverty:
http://www.theguardian.com/society/...ailblock:Editable+trailblock+-+news:Position4
 

Tin Pot

Guru
So, accusations aside, would you agree with my conclusion even if we are diametrically apart on the basics?

Or do you believe parenting should be heavily stigmatised because of the results on society?
 

ScotiaLass

Guru
Location
Middle Earth
Yebbut a 13 year old crying because he is scared of walking to the nearby shops, particularly after boasting about how worldly he is??

Sorry, but that is just wrong and his parents need a good speaking too!

Jeez, I was able to walk to the shops alone at half his age!!

My son is 14. He has only recently been able to walk across the road to the newsagents/chip shop. It was a huge deal for him.
He is scared of dogs he doesn't know...even on a lead. He is very anxious about everything around him, from traffic passing, to strangers speaking to him.
He can now get the bus on his own for the first time (but only one route!).
He gives an air of confidence and can talk a good fight, but when put to the test, he falls to bits.
He has few friends and is very much a loner.

We have worked hard to get him to this point, and for the first time in his life, earlier this year, aged 13, he had a sleepover.
In public we have endured the stares, the 'tuts', the comments, from those around us who just presume our child is badly behaved because he's throwing a tantrum, when in actual fact he is experiencing sensory overload....the noises, the people, the bright lights in supermarkets, and is totally overwhelmed and scared.

Did I mention my son has Aspergers? And ADHD, and Cyclical Vomiting Syndrome?
Don't judge what you can't see.
Yes, the child maybe sheltered, have parents with money who give him all he wants....but maybe, just maybe, he has an underlying condition as well.
 
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