Weld failure - Not cycle related

[classic33]

Too late for that new hinge installed - bolted to the post.

The same post?

Maybe they don't feel that welded hinges would be strong enough.

 

[PK99]

The same post?

Maybe they don't feel that welded hinges would be strong enough.

Yep. But still playing hardball

 

[Illaveago]

I thought that you had to use stainless steel wire to weld cast iron.

 

[classic33]

Having hung 25 - 30 foot gates, in a similar fashion, none of which have fallen apart yet. I'd say it's a poor attempt at a weld and the person who did it should hang their head in shame.

If not, strung up by their own welding. Shouldn't hurt, it'll fail.

 

[classic33]

I thought that you had to use stainless steel wire to weld cast iron.

You can use cast iron rods on genuine cast iron.

 

[Illaveago]

They were also putting a lot of faith into that hinge post just but welding it like that considering the weight and length of the gate. As an example just take a look at the amount of weld there is around a car door hinge.

 

[sight-pin]

I thought that you had to use stainless steel wire to weld cast iron.

Mig welded mine, not really sure about what rods you need to hang a gate to cast, but i know normal arc rods don't work well with steel to cast.

 

[gbb]

It maybe contradicts what the owner is claiming, that its a high quality gate. He perhaps thinks this because it may have cost him a fortune

I've done a fair bit of mig welding over the years, just workshop repairs etc, occasional non structural frames, that kind of thing....i was never trained, just picked up what I could and tbf....that weld could have been one of mine , I occasionally struggled to get good penetration, because I was never trained and didn't have a methodical approach.

Self deprecating to a fault...thats me.

 

[classic33]

Mig welded mine, not really sure about what rods you need to hang a gate to cast, but i know normal arc rods don't work well with steel to cast.

I'd say those hinges were MIG welded, not stick welded.

 

[sight-pin]

It maybe contradicts what the owner is claiming, that its a high quality gate. He perhaps thinks this because it may have cost him a fortune

I've done a fair bit of mig welding over the years, just workshop repairs etc, occasional non structural frames, that kind of thing....i was never trained, just picked up what I could and tbf....that weld could have been one of mine , I occasionally struggled to get good penetration, because I was never trained and didn't have a methodical approach.

Self deprecating to a fault...thats me.

I was commercial vehicle mechanic, that's the beauty of fleet work....plenty of time to work on your own stuff

 

[sight-pin]

I'd say those hinges were MIG welded, not stick welded.

Yeah, but i was just pointing out my own experiences with welding.

 

[Levo-Lon]

Well to me the weld looks fine.
Id say the problem is with the post, it looks like the rusted metal has just pulled away due to stress and corrosion.
The weld line at the hinge base looks perfect..

I also worked in auto repair , ive see very good welds and chicken poo.
A good mate of mine used to weld hydraulic rams for the Ray Smith Group ,tail lifts, brilliant welder.

Me im more chicken poo

 

[Levo-Lon]

Oh and just to put a bit of perspective into it...
My Brother was killed by a large brick pier that fell on him. No steel in the column.
We couldn't sue the owner either.

 

[Fnaar]

Tuesday Weld

 

[Fnaar]

I occasionally struggled to get good penetration, because I was never trained and didn't have a methodical approach.

That's a quote from Miss Goodbody's ex-husband's autobiography