What do you use for ID when....

[Vapin' Joe]

Afaik the UK are the only country in Europe that don't require their citizens to ID at all times.

Republic of Ireland is another.

 

[Pat "5mph"]

Republic of Ireland is another.

Cheers, one learns something new every day!

 

[classic33]

I'm already a full licence holder, but if they won't renew it on medical grounds I can't get a another one for the same reason.

Polling stations accept bus passes, but the bank won't (necessarily), so I doubt that will cut the mustard.

If they don't accept photocopies I don't see why they would accept a scan on a screen. If I'm applying for a passport I've got the problem of finding someone who's known me for two years to sign the photo.

In this instance digital ID was the problem, but yes, it's time HMG stopped pandering to people who don't want ID cards.

A tax notification and a utility bill will do, but I don't want to have to carry them (or a passport) around everywhere just on the off chance that I need them once a tall time. It's about access to services at the point of need, not after it's too late. On this occasion I could make do with the £50 they would give me instead of the £100 the cheque was for, but that won't necessarily be the case.

There was a whole load of photo ID that wasn't accepted at polling stations. Including council issued ID cards, digital passports and driving licences.
That list has had changes made since it was introduced and with more on the way.

As for Lloyds, they won't, or can't accept, ID cards they've issued to staff for obvious reasons. If your're already banking with them, or one of the banks they own, then if you've other accounts with them, they can be used for identification purposes.
The list of what they're allowed to accept as viable ID wasn't chosen by the banks, but imposed on them. Even now many places "demanding ID" won't accept a mobile phone bill. This despite landlines going within 12 months, and more folk only having a mobile number.


@glasgowcyclist has offered you a link to the current alternative to the card you wanted.

Not renewing a driving licence on medical grounds, is something that the law decides, along with issuing one in the first place.

As for everyone carrying ID cards to suit your needs, why should we. And whilst you're at it, explain how it'd work for someone whose ID has been stolen! I've extra security in place as a result. And it doesn't involve photo ID.

 

[Time Waster]

Just a question to those more knowledgeable on this. Does the ID need to be in date or valid?

Say an old passport that's out of date is still photo id right?

If you can't renew your licence, do you still have it? If so is it not a photo id?

No idea if the bank uses a security app that checks things properly such that they need to be valid or if the bank teller can use it to make a judgement call. If the latter they might accept the invalid drivers licence or your last passport even if out of date (assuming you look close enough to the photograph of course).

This advice is more a query than serious advice, but it might just work out. If you're stuck perhaps speak to your bank about it and take in those invalid but still once accepted ID documents. You might get lucky!

 

[dicko]

HM Armed Forces Veteran I.d.

 

[classic33]

Just a question to those more knowledgeable on this. Does the ID need to be in date or valid?

Say an old passport that's out of date is still photo id right?

If you can't renew your licence, do you still have it? If so is it not a photo id?

No idea if the bank uses a security app that checks things properly such that they need to be valid or if the bank teller can use it to make a judgement call. If the latter they might accept the invalid drivers licence or your last passport even if out of date (assuming you look close enough to the photograph of course).

This advice is more a query than serious advice, but it might just work out. If you're stuck perhaps speak to your bank about it and take in those invalid but still once accepted ID documents. You might get lucky!

The verification process cleary state a valid licence/passport. An out of date one of either, is not a valid ID by definition.

 

[Time Waster]

The verification process cleary state a valid licence/passport. An out of date one of either, is not a valid ID by definition.

Fair enough. Didn't read the valid part in the OPs post so thought I'd ask the question.

 

[MontyVeda]

I hope you don't cycle solo. Or get hit crossing the road.

I think i'd end up in A&E without a passport.

 

[Pblakeney]

I think i'd end up in A&E without a passport.

True. Say you have a head injury though and can't identify yourself. The medics can't give you proper treatment as they don't know what meds you take, or can't take. Your family and friends cannot be contacted about your whereabouts. All for the sake of carrying a small card. Your choice but it is not consequence free.

E.g. - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-28687356

 

[sungod]

Have you considered this? 👉: https://www.citizencard.com/

£18 for an ID card accepted by government, police, domestic airlines etc.

afaik banks do not accept it, and there're still formal validation requirements if you haven't an existing photo id

financial institutions are generally enforcing tighter control/validation since the 'know your customer' rules came into force, bank websites should list the types of id they accept, tends to be only passport or driving licence (or government id card for foreign nationals)

 

[YMFB]

i can’t answer the question but there is no doubt in my mind that we should all have i. No id off to the nick until your identity is confirmed. It would save the police a lot of time and annoy the criminals no end.

 

[Baldy]

True. Say you have a head injury though and can't identify yourself. The medics can't give you proper treatment as they don't know what meds you take, or can't take. Your family and friends cannot be contacted about your whereabouts. All for the sake of carrying a small card. Your choice but it is not consequence free.

E.g. - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-28687356

Nonsense, if you arrive at A&E they treat you no matter who you are or what's wrong with you. They worry about who you are afterwards.

 

[MontyVeda]

i can’t answer the question but there is no doubt in my mind that we should all have i. No id off to the nick until your identity is confirmed. It would save the police a lot of time and annoy the criminals no end.

No. it'd waste a lot of police time and the crims would have fake ID.

 

[MontyVeda]

The verification process cleary state a valid licence/passport. An out of date one of either, is not a valid ID by definition.

I seem to recall when it comes to voter ID, an expired passport is OK.

 

[YMFB]

No. it'd waste a lot of police time and the crims would have fake ID.

Most of the world disagrees with your opinion.