What excuses will be used to increase electric car tax?

[Andy in Germany]

That’s another misconception, not everyone works in an office, shop, warehouse etc, some people have to travel for their job, some a heck of a lot, & leave from home to go all over the UK

That's an interesting point: we need to build a more just society where people don't need to work like this to survive. If we don't we'll eventually be forced to reduce anyway, so it makes sense to work this way.

 

[johnblack]

That's fair enough to some extent, although I'd argue the car will only remain essential as long as we insist on the same level of hyper-mobility we have now. Cars are however inappropriate as a form of transport for the majority of people in congested cities.

Completely agree, I could never live in a city but if I did, I couldn't imagine the need for a car, and should I need one, I'd just rent it.

I don't need to work in an office, could easily do everything from home, but I like being in the office most of the time and one of the perks is a hell of a car package so I might have a bit of bias. Our village has one bus a day out and another back in the evening. It's already subsidised so I can see why there's no chance of adding more.

 

[johnblack]

That's an interesting point: we need to build a more just society where people don't need to work like this to survive. If we don't we'll eventually be forced to reduce anyway, so it makes sense to work this way.

We have a lot of field based employees, travelling their patch for meetings. It's such an old school way of doing things and is done because that's the way it's always been done. Most of what they do could be done on Skype or FT.

 

[DRM]

That's an interesting point: we need to build a more just society where people don't need to work like this to survive. If we don't we'll eventually be forced to reduce anyway, so it makes sense to work this way.

We can’t how does the service tech turn up to repair a piece of kit, particularly if it’s in the supply chain/logistics or the various things used to make other things, when you really think about we can’t go electric, how can you defend a country, hold the war while our tank is charging, the police/fire service/ambulance can’t get there it’s got a flat battery, it’s actually a pipe dream to go electric

 

[Ming the Merciless]

That’s another misconception, not everyone works in an office, shop, warehouse etc, some people have to travel for their job, some a heck of a lot, & leave from home to go all over the UK

Nevertheless the car drivers will be the stinkiest

 

[johnblack]

Nevertheless the car drivers will be the stinkiest

I find my car journey nice and relaxing, not a bead of sweat to be seen. I can safely say that I smell glorious.

 

[Andy in Germany]

I find my car journey nice and relaxing, not a bead of sweat to be seen. I can safely say that I smell glorious.

Sirrah, are you accusing me of smelling anything less than glorious?

 

[DRM]

Nevertheless the car drivers will be the stinkiest

Depends what they ate the night before traveling

 

[Slow But Determined]

Not really pro or anti this argument but would just like to make two points.

In my 46 years of work never did I work in a workplace that provided showers

As I do a lot of driving abroad and pay tolls, purchase vignettes, when will we start charging foreign registered vehicles for using and abusing our roads.

 

[screenman]

Whatever tax is gathered comes back to benefit us all, or so I am told.

 

[clid61]

Whatever tax is gathered comes back to benefit us all, or so I am told.

Yeah Right !!

 

[DRM]

Not really pro or anti this argument but would just like to make two points.

In my 46 years of work never did I work in a workplace that provided showers

As I do a lot of driving abroad and pay tolls, purchase vignettes, when will we start charging foreign registered vehicles for using and abusing our roads.

Never, the politicians think all these Eastern European trucks pay tax on the fuel in the tank, they are ignorant of the fact that each tractor unit has massive fuel tanks on both sides of the vehicle & the drivers are told that they will be sacked if they fill up in the U.K, they must use the cheapest outlet on the Continent

 

[Smudge]

Never, the politicians think all these Eastern European trucks pay tax on the fuel in the tank, they are ignorant of the fact that each tractor unit has massive fuel tanks on both sides of the vehicle & the drivers are told that they will be sacked if they fill up in the U.K, they must use the cheapest outlet on the Continent

As most in the haulage industry are aware of that, i would find it hard to believe that the government aren't aware of it. More likely is that they just haven't found a way to charge these foreign haulage firms for the lost uk fuel revenue.

 

[DRM]

It’s easy, they purchase a vignette on the ferry, they still pay the tolls in France, and everywhere else that has toll roads, why get away with it here

 

[Ming the Merciless]

Congestion charges round every town and city would sort it. Fine for getting to the edge but you come inside you either use public transport, walk or cycle. Plus make the very inner of a city / town car free.