Wheel clamping bicycles by security

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XmisterIS

Purveyor of fine nonsense
Downfader ... who do you work for? The Gestapo? The Stasi??

My word, if anyone tried that kind of sh*t with us mathematicians/programmers where I used to work, we'd just say, "We want our working environment how we like it and if you don't like it you can go and screw yourselves". They wouldn't dare sack any of us, we were the only people in the company who knew how to do braniac mathematics (i.e. projects all dead in the water without us).
 
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downfader

downfader

extimus uero philosophus
Location
'ampsheeeer
Cunobelin said:
Fortunately my Trust is cycle orientated with good lockers and facilities.... you could try going through the NHS Cycle Network - Spokes

They may be of help.

Funnily enough we have a brand new hospital with a lovely North Entrance, wide pavement, and tactile markings for the disabled...

Its a shame the local taxi drivers are too thick to understand the concept of not parking on it!

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Have informed Spokes in the past about other cycle related matters. Technically I dont work for the hospital now (whole dept has been screwed over - very long story) and may not be there after september so have stopped nagging superiors for cycling issues.

I might send an email to spokes actually, and the local press since I forgot last night (too busy image editing for my alamy portfolio)
 

Garz

Squat Member
Location
Down
Any day like that is a sad day for cyclists! Would probably pay off to get friendly with the site maintenance/wardens who might ignore these threats.
 

blazed

220lb+
I dont see the problem and think he deserved the clamp. He got warned and he still parked there. Cars have to abide by the rules and so should cyclists.
 

Twiggy

New Member
Location
Coventry
Maybe add a sign to the bike saying "all unauthorised locks will be removed and removal charged to the lock owner"
 

Tynan

Veteran
Location
e4
blazed said:
I dont see the problem and think he deserved the clamp. He got warned and he still parked there. Cars have to abide by the rules and so should cyclists.

If someone warned you not to use your toilet at home or they'd smash it up would you think that was acceptable?
 

blazed

220lb+
Tynan said:
If someone warned you not to use your toilet at home or they'd smash it up would you think that was acceptable?
You are at work on private property. If you leave your car parked in a companies car park you will likely be clamped, and so long as they have adequate signage they are allowed to do so. He had warning and still parked his bike there thus deserving to be clamped.
 

Plax

Guru
Location
Wales
blazed said:
You are at work on private property. If you leave your car parked in a companies car park you will likely be clamped, and so long as they have adequate signage they are allowed to do so. He had warning and still parked his bike there thus deserving to be clamped.

50/50 I think. Of course he was pushing his luck locking his bike there after being warned, but where else would he lock his bike if all the stands are taken? 1/2 a mile down the road? The company is clearly not providing adequate cycling spaces (discrimination in favour of car drivers perhaps?) despite requests for more stands. They'd soon provide more car parking spaces if there weren't enough, or overlook "double parking" or people blocking other cars in, if there was no option to expand the car park - the company I work for built a whole new car park to cater for the lack of parking spaces! To be fair they have also said they are going to get another bike shed too.
 
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downfader

downfader

extimus uero philosophus
Location
'ampsheeeer
blazed said:
I dont see the problem and think he deserved the clamp. He got warned and he still parked there. Cars have to abide by the rules and so should cyclists.
To a point yes, however the bike was in nobody's way and this I can assure you of. Very wide pavement, not blocking any exits or a trip hazard. When you see drivers get away with bad parking day in day out you do feel its become a little one sided if they target cyclists.

I also feel that if they did put in more cycle parking his location would have been the one they chose as its ideal. ;)

I did send an email to the local paper but I dont think they're interested without proof. Annoyingly I didnt take any photos with me phone as I could have done. If I see any other bikes in a similar situation I will take a shot and send it in.
 

atbman

Veteran
They stated that parking a bike there was "illegal". Somehow I doubt that - against the rules, maybe, illegal, no. Unless Parliament has passed some legislation while none of us were looking
 

blazed

220lb+
Plax said:
50/50 I think. Of course he was pushing his luck locking his bike there after being warned, but where else would he lock his bike if all the stands are taken? 1/2 a mile down the road? The company is clearly not providing adequate cycling spaces (discrimination in favour of car drivers perhaps?) despite requests for more stands. They'd soon provide more car parking spaces if there weren't enough, or overlook "double parking" or people blocking other cars in, if there was no option to expand the car park - the company I work for built a whole new car park to cater for the lack of parking spaces! To be fair they have also said they are going to get another bike shed too.

If i try to park my car in a private place and there is a sign saying i will get clamped, i risk getting clamped so yes i have to park half a mile down the road. As cyclists we bang on about having the same rights as motorists on the road, the same applies we should not be exempt from clamping because we are on a bike.

downfader said:
To a point yes, however the bike was in nobody's way and this I can assure you of. Very wide pavement, not blocking any exits or a trip hazard. When you see drivers get away with bad parking day in day out you do feel its become a little one sided if they target cyclists.

I also feel that if they did put in more cycle parking his location would have been the one they chose as its ideal. ;)

I did send an email to the local paper but I dont think they're interested without proof. Annoyingly I didnt take any photos with me phone as I could have done. If I see any other bikes in a similar situation I will take a shot and send it in.

From this i gather you do not drive. Ive lost count of the amount of parking fines ive had, always my own mistake thinking i can park somewhere whilst i run to the shop for 5 minutes, come back with a nice little yellow and black sleeve under my window wiper with another fine inside. But that is the point, i knew the risk and can accept it. You seem to be taking a "I am cyclist how dare they do this to me" attitue.

atbman said:
They stated that parking a bike there was "illegal". Somehow I doubt that - against the rules, maybe, illegal, no. Unless Parliament has passed some legislation while none of us were looking
Most clamping is done on private property rather than government/council, since these people are clamping your vehicle i would assume by law they are able to do so, so long as there is adequate signage.
 

Amanda P

Legendary Member
Does your employer provide car parking, downfader? If so, why not just park your bike in a car parking space?

If that causes problems ("these spaces are for cars"), you could buy an old shed of an estate car or van, park it permanently at work, and then park bikes inside it.
 

summerdays

Cycling in the sun
Location
Bristol
Uncle Phil said:
Does your employer provide car parking, downfader? If so, why not just park your bike in a car parking space?

If that causes problems ("these spaces are for cars"), you could buy an old shed of an estate car or van, park it permanently at work, and then park bikes inside it.

Like that idea but even better - park a very small dead car in a parking space, and then lock the bikes to the outside of it to make the point about how many bikes could be parked in one car park space. Downside would be finding secure points to lock the bike to.
 
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