wheels: cheap/strong/light - choose 2

Discussion in 'General Cycling Discussions' started by mustang1, 14 Jun 2018.

  1. mustang1

    mustang1 Veteran

    London, UK
    We've all come across this one. Whenever someone talks about buying wheels, somewhere along the thread someone will say "cheap, strong, light - choose two".

    Ok, I choose strong and light. Which wheels would you suggest?

    Now someone will say "What's your budget?" and I will say "there isn't one". So which wheels are strong and light? I always thought strong wheels had to be heavy, regardless of price.
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  2. Milzy

    Milzy Veteran

  3. YukonBoy

    YukonBoy Extra solar

    Ultima Thule
    If you build them yourself you can have the cheap as well.
  4. Kestevan

    Kestevan Last of the Summer Winos

  5. Soltydog

    Soltydog Guru

    near Hornsea
    Depends how strong & how light you want ^_^ I've got handbuilt wheels 36 rear 32 front & even when I've been around 17stone they have been strong enough, light enough for me, think they were around 1600-1700g before tyres & tubes etc
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  6. 400bhp

    400bhp Guru

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  7. Milzy

    Milzy Veteran

    Even large sprinters like Kittel only max out at 86kg. Lose some weight.
  8. Dan B

    Dan B Disengaged member

    OK, I choose "front" and "rear". That's not going to be enough for the trike, but should be fine for any of the other cycles in the household
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  9. StuAff

    StuAff Silencing his legs regularly

    +1 for the Lightweights (though Enve & Reynolds, to name but two, have some similarly fab offerings). Depending on model, up to 110kg system weight limit. I'm in no danger of getting anywhere near that :smile:
  10. vickster

    vickster Legendary Member

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  11. raleighnut

    raleighnut Guru

    On 3 Wheels
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  12. SkipdiverJohn

    SkipdiverJohn Über Member

    Cheap and strong will do for me. There's no such thing as a heavy alloy bike wheel. Don't agree with me?
    OK, try this:- get on an old steel bike with chromed steel rims, ride it a lot in all sorts of conditions, pick it up and heave it over a few barriers/gates and carry it up a few flights of stairs. Then you'll know what heavy really feels like, and you'll never complain again about even the most basic budget set of alloys, such as those found on low-priced hybrids.
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  13. DCLane

    DCLane Found in the Yorkshire hills ...

    Superstar Components wheels - they regularly have a sale on.

    Light, strong and relatively inexpensive.
  14. Alan O

    Alan O Über Member

    My thoughts entirely.

    My lightest wheels are the ones I have for my road-only bike, clad with 25mm GP4000sII tyres. They have Weinmann R18 14mm rims, Quando hubs, and 36 spokes. The components are very much budget items, but they seem very good value for money to me - the cheap hubs in particular should last years with regular bearing cleaning and re-greasing. The pair cost me £65.

    I don't know how much they weigh, but in my hand they do not seem remotely heavy. I see reviews crowing about 100-gram savings in weight, but that's a good bit less than the weight of the food and drink I carry with me on a ride, and far less than the natural daily weight variation in my body.

    But if people want to pay big money for super light wheels, I'm all in favour - it helps low-weight technology trickle down to budget components for the rest of us.
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  15. SkipdiverJohn

    SkipdiverJohn Über Member

    There isn't really much "technology" involved as far as the structure and material of an alloy is concerned. OK, you can no doubt use CAD software to design the minimum mass of metal required for a given load capacity, but the weight savings are going to be a couple of ounces, not pounds as in the case of going from steel to alloy.
    The biggest weight saving in modern road bike wheels I suspect comes largely from the silly low number of spokes deployed, rather than the cross section design of the rim. That's all fine and dandy all the time you don't break one, but if I've got a 36-spoker & Mr Weight-Obsessive has got a 20-spoker and we both ping one on the same big pothole, guess which one of us is likely riding home and which one is likely going to be walking? The trouble with cutting the material to the bone is there's nothing left in reserve, and the slightest failure could render the wheel unrideable.
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