Leodis
Veteran
- Location
- Moortown, Leeds
Everyday I work in IT and everyday a piece of my soul dies.
70% of IT graduates from 2011-2013 were known to be in employment whereas 73% of Mass Media graduates were known to be in employment.*
So, if there are more jobs than graduates in IT and more graduates than jobs for Mass Media graduates, have a go at explaining the figures.
*Higher Education Statistics Agency
Aside from my turn it off/on again comment earlier, I do actually work in IT
I'm the IT Operations Manager for a cluster of schools and academies. At one time a few years back the IT was going to be out sourced to a call centre for the most part. Fortunately (for me) the managemebt saw the value of keeping me and my team on to support the federation of schools
Neither myself or anyone in my team has an IT degree. I prefer to employ on experience rather than pieces of paper
"IT" covers a multitude of different things: do you really need people who know about UML, third-order normal form and formal methods if all they're going to be asked to do is install software and rack new servers?
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But your 73% media grads aren't working in the Media, that the point I was making, a good deal are in non Media related employment.
On the other hand most of your IT graduate will be working in IT as they haven't the personality for an alternative career.
Guy I went to school with is in IT, he's VP for a large software concern. He lives on an island in a river, and drives an Aston Martin.
The only difference is he's now a wealthy bore instead of a spotty teenage one.
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Those with pure Computer Science Degrees are those graduated in the 80s and early 90s. with the odd universities offering a general Computer Science programme.
Really? The local university offers a Computer Science BSc course. You needed pretty good grades to get on it. When I searched around about a year ago, there were plenty of universities offering Computer Science BSc courses. You tended to need better grades for the Computer Science course than the Electronics Engineering course, although Electronics required Maths and Physics iirc. Interestingly, the local uni also offers an Information Science BSc, which I think includes trouble shooting computer problems, networks, digital communications, webpage design, maintaining databases, and probably more commercial oriented computing.
See my last sentence.There will always be the odd ones.
In the 90s, the IT giants began to move to hard sciences to recruit. Mathematics became a core requirements because the engine of IT was becoming Algorithms. Interestingly Bank's Forex, Derivatives etc were also fishing from the same pool.
IT and Information Science is an amazing field. The advice however is go the way of the hard sciences, including engineering, maths, physics and then aim for IT giants. Banks are the same. Learning finance and business is no longer going to cut it. Its engineering, hard sciences followed by Masters from a business school.
There's more to IT and the hard sciences than working for financial institutions.
See my last sentence.There will always be the odd ones.
In the 90s, the IT giants began to move to hard sciences to recruit. Mathematics became a core requirements because the engine of IT was becoming Algorithms. Interestingly Bank's Forex, Derivatives etc were also fishing from the same pool.
IT and Information Science is an amazing field. The advice however is go the way of the hard sciences, including engineering, maths, physics and then aim for IT giants. Banks are the same. Learning finance and business is no longer going to cut it. Its engineering, hard sciences followed by Masters from a business school.
Strange that Maths is a core requirement, because I rarely had to use it. We used an odd sort of computer arithmetic at one place I worked at. Sometimes I used a bit of trigonometry, just as a way of testing some graphics feature, but I did not have to. Apart from a bit of hexadecimal arithmetic and some boolean logic, that was about it. I doubt if even those hard science and engineering whizz kids recruited by financial sector use much actual maths in their code.