Punkawallah
Veteran
I wouldn’t? The only one that might tempt is the speed restricted Citroen two seater on a Provisional license. But seeing as that would mean infliction my wife on other road users, not even that one.
Which EV would you get?
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I'm not anti EV for all the reasons I see, but aside from the original Lotus Elise derived Tesla, the only EV I have ever genuinely wanted, in that it appeals to me and I see it as a desirable vehicle, is the new Renault 5, some of you will be shocked to hear that yellow would be my colour of choice.
It's still a bit too big admittedly, but having watched a raft of reviews (The Late break show with Greg James guesting was my fave), and seen a few in the flesh, I very much still feel that way.
Be intrigued to see what their second hand values are like.
I may fawn over this one, as back in the day I really wanted a 5 GT Turbo, preferably in Anthracite, although a purple Raider edition, or one with a Dimma kit was also on the wish list.
It's still a bit too big admittedly, but having watched a raft of reviews (The Late break show with Greg James guesting was my fave), and seen a few in the flesh, I very much still feel that way.
Be intrigued to see what their second hand values are like.
I may fawn over this one, as back in the day I really wanted a 5 GT Turbo, preferably in Anthracite, although a purple Raider edition, or one with a Dimma kit was also on the wish list.
dicko
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It’s a Renault, no need to say anymore.
Range about 160 miles, under €20,000 (17k) and uk government grant ok, four doors too.
dicko
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My favourite too is the Renault 5 E but the new Twingo suits our needs perfectly, trouble is I was thinking of retiring from driving after nearly 60 yrs of motoring next year.
No, they are not. No car is obviously better than an EV, but an EV is much better than a combustion engine car.
See for instance
https://interactive.carbonbrief.org/factcheck/electric-vehicles/index.html
Fastpedaller
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Better to keep the old ICE one going than to use all the energy to create an EV
Again, actually probably not. I don't have a reference, but recall the payback time on emissions for new BEV vs scrapping an old ICE car is only something like 4 years. On new vs new it's two years or so.
So likely only true if you do very low mileage.
figbat
Former slippery scientist
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I’m currently in the market to replace my MINI EV; so far I’ve test driven the Renault 5, Ford Puma Gen-E and Volvo EX30. The R5 heads the list - it was a great drive, looks good, is almost as quick as my MINI and with a notable increase in range. The rear seats are not as generous in the leg room department as the MINI but they would be be used only occasionally. The other two were nice enough cars but the Puma was notably slower and the Volvo is just a bit more car than I am after (it’s properly quick though, even in single motor guise).
I might also look at the Peugeot e-208 and someone suggested I try the MINI Aceman (although after 3 MINIs in a row I think I might be over them).
I might also look at the Peugeot e-208 and someone suggested I try the MINI Aceman (although after 3 MINIs in a row I think I might be over them).
Fastpedaller
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The link has many 'likely' 'significantly' and 'almost all' statements - a typical 'politician's' stance.
Lots of seemingly inevitable stuff coming out of the woodwork now about older EVs being written off due to cost of repair (mainly due to battery degradation or damage).
While I'm all for the legitimate environmental argument I remain extremely skeptical of BEVs and of a mind that the government agenda revolves not around genuine concern for the environment, but instead a short-term PR exercise to appear to be addressing the issue and keep economic plates spinning. It seems disingenouous and self-defeating to promote further consumption in order to resolve a problem that in itself is the result of excess consumption..
Realistically until we get radically better battery tech I agree with Toyota's approach that hybrids are the way forward, along with a more measured and realistic general attitude to energy use and transport in general.
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Reflecting uncertainties and acknowledging caveats is a scientific, not political approach.
Bonefish Blues
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I bought the one that I'd get 
The i3 hasn't disappointed.
The i3 hasn't disappointed.
phevs are far less efficient in real world usage than claimed
See eg
https://www.theguardian.com/busines...-lab-tests-suggest?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other
Bonefish Blues
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Some are better than others. I ran a plug in Prius for a while and the puny speed limited 15-mile battery was remarkably useful, given some thought. I was posting prodigious mpg for a cost of about 18p's worth of E7 electricity.
