winter and darknes

[HJ]

I've just posted a link to some lights on Dealextreme over in the MTB forum....

http://www.cyclechat.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=40874&page=2

P7 LED bike light - $80 for a serious light....probably waaaayyyy to .......

Come off it, how can you have a bike light that is too bright for the road? Unless you are willing to spend serious money and buy something like a Lupine Betty you are not going get a light which is nearly as bright as a car head lamp, and no one has yet suggested taking cars off the roads because their lights are too bright.

Yes there are some brighter cycle lights out there which need to be used responsibly if being used on the roads, but you have to pay way more than $80 to buy one...

 

[fossyant]

Look good for 80 bucks

 

[Plax]

Do they have summer in Wales?? I thought that was just a legend....

I'm beginning to believe the same thing

 

[HJ]

Look good for 80 bucks

I didn't say it wasn't good for 80 bucks, I said that there was no way it was going to be too bright for road use. Just because a cheap LED torch is brighter than old fashioned candle in a jam jar cycle lights, it doesn't make them supper bright when compared to the lights on motor vehicles, they don't come anywhere near. In order for a cycle light to be too bright to be used on the road, it would need to be brighter than a motor vehicle headlamp. At the present time the nearest you will get to that is the Lupine Betty 14 which has about the same light output as a midrange car headlamp. If you ken where you can get a Lupine for 80 bucks, please let me know...

 

[purplepolly]

In order for a cycle light to be too bright to be used on the road, it would need to be brighter than a motor vehicle headlamp.

Car headlamps usually are low down and designed so that light is reflected down onto the road.

Bike lights are usually set high up, at about driver eye level, and usually have nothing inside to direct the beam downwards. This means there's far more 'light pollution' to get in motorists eyes. So a powerful bike light could easily be more of a problem to motorists than headlamps.

 

[goo_mason]

Car headlamps usually are low down and designed so that light is reflected down onto the road.

Bike lights are usually set high up, at about driver eye level, and usually have nothing inside to direct the beam downwards. This means there's far more 'light pollution' to get in motorists eyes. So a powerful bike light could easily be more of a problem to motorists than headlamps.

Yep, but you'd be amazed at how many of them still claim they didn't see you after they pull out on you.

 

[purplepolly]

Yep, but you'd be amazed at how many of them still claim they didn't see you after they pull out on you.

and what they really mean is that they didn't look properly, going round with a full set of football pitch floodlights on a trailer wouldn't help there.

 

[fossyant]

and what they really mean is that they didn't look properly, going round with a full set of football pitch floodlights on a trailer wouldn't help there.

Exactly............

 

[Keith Oates]

I think that in some instances a powerful flashing multi led light is more noticable than a powerful steady one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[lukesdad]

Do they have summer in Wales?? I thought that was just a legend....

We do, but we just base them on different criteria to everybody else......Its just got to stop raining for a few days and ...Hey presto we ve had a summer simple.

 

[Virtual DBP]

billy connelly said about scotland (but could easily apply to wales as well)...

scotland has two seasons, winter and july

 

[Cubist]

billy connelly said about scotland (but could easily apply to wales as well)...

scotland has two seasons, winter and july

We have a local saying about the seasons:

"We have about three months of appalling shitty weather, then it's back round to winter again......."

 

[scouserinlondon]

I consider rear lights to be more important most of my riding is done on rural roads,far more likely to get hit from behind. I use 2 rear lights 1 on the bike and 1 on the backpack.

I'm after a light to attach to my saddle pack, can you recommend owt?

 

[HLaB]

I'm after a light to attach to my saddle pack, can you recommend owt?

I attach either the Smart super flash or the Blackburn Mars 4.0 to the back of my saddle bag both are good lights IMO.

 

[getfit]

Has anyone used the Ledwear Hi-Vis jacket? It seems a well thought out product and on top of a good set of lights should help to get you seen.

http://www.ledwear.co.uk/

GF