Workplace Parking II - Tax Spaces ?

[Linford]

Without public service there wouldn't be any jobs for them to drive to, or roads for them to drive on.

It's a bit of a catch-22, isn't it?

There most certainly would. The Highways are mostly maintained by contractors - not Government employees in any case.
They should scrap VED and reduce fuel duty to the point where it covers the maintenance of the road network. If the gov then struggles to pay the massive pensions and benefits to the public sector workers, then they should hoof them out, and pay the, jobseekers allowance instead - or print more money.

The roads are in a real mess because they won't actually spend the money on them which they receive in taxes, and instead go and blow it on quango's, and inflated index linked pension entitlements for the non jobs workers

Commerce gets shafted at every corner by all manner of gov departments who in reality do diddly squat for it - Business rates are a prime example of this. These rubber stampers should be employed making stuff for export instead of wasting time making up charges to justify their non job wages.

Don't get me started on Council tax either - £1300PA out of already taxed income for the average household......

 

[stowie]

What is the actual difference between a council employed road maintenance worker and one employed by a contractor contracted to the council?

One is a sponging parasite who is stealing from "hard working families" to fund their exorbitant swan eating/ champagne quaffing lifestyle and gold plated pension, whilst the other is a hard working salt-of-the-earth tax-paying, God-fearing member of society being downtrodden by the profligate ways of our government.

Does that clear it up for you?

 

[stowie]

Sounds like your nice little high street needs a f*cking big by-pass.

Or more car parking spaces. Or both. I bet there are nice pavements on his high-street which tax-paying motorists cannot even park on without getting a ticket by our fascist local councils. Still, I bet you couldn't park your car on the pavement without it getting scratched by some anti-social pavement cyclist.

 

[Linford]

What is the actual difference between a council employed road maintenance worker and one employed by a contractor contracted to the council?

Well for one thing a contractor is paid by results at a set rate . A council worker is paid irrespective of whether they deliver or not

 

[stowie]

If the gov then struggles to pay the massive pensions and benefits to the public sector workers, then they should hoof them out, and pay the, jobseekers allowance instead - or print more money.

Genius. I hope you are contacting George Osborne with these plans.

 

[stowie]

Perfectly. Now which was which?

Whichever way round you want to suit the argument. That is the beauty with vast sweeping generalisations.

 

[stowie]

But what about the 3 ziillion managers on the council making sure they hit they Key Performance Indicators?

Won't they all need car parking spaces as well?

 

[User482]

What is the actual difference between a council employed road maintenance worker and one employed by a contractor contracted to the council?

The former is employed to fix the roads. The latter is employed to do the cheapest job he can get away with so the maximum amount of tax payers' money possible goes into private sector profit.

 

[stowie]

Such a range of answers. It's all so confusingly unsimple.

If the worker is employed by the council they aren't incentivised to get the job done and spend their time drinking tea, chatting to their colleagues, counting their huge final salary pension and ringing their union because a manager asked them a question. If the worker is employed by the contractor then they will be minimum wage, untrained and incentivised to do the shoddiest job as quickly and cheaply as possible whilst the evil private employer pockets taxpayer cash, chuckling as he takes his ill-gotten gains to the (publicly subsidised) bank.

Either way the pothole doesn't get filled in.

 

[Drago]

The average public sector pension pays a mighty £4200 a year,so you're living in a dream world if you think public sector road workers, if there are any left, are on big fat final salary pensions.

 

[Linford]

If the worker is employed by the council they aren't incentivised to get the job done and spend their time drinking tea, chatting to their colleagues, counting their huge final salary pension and ringing their union because a manager asked them a question. If the worker is employed by the contractor then they will be minimum wage, untrained and incentivised to do the shoddiest job as quickly and cheaply as possible whilst the evil private employer pockets taxpayer cash, chuckling as he takes his ill-gotten gains to the (publicly subsidised) bank.

Either way the pothole doesn't get filled in.

You mean like this ?