jefmcg
Guru
You could have proved you were smarter than him, without doing the test, by telling him you wouldn't use an IQ test as part of the hiring process.
Would you do this with your child?
- Thread starter dfthe1
- Start date
Page may contain affiliate links. Please see terms for details.
Nigel-YZ1
Guru
- Location
- Somewhere else... maybe soon.
Roads are built for everyone to share and travel on. If people have that much concern for a child then there should never ever be a road accident.
They're not asking if the father is negligent, they're demanding she be removed so they don't have to give a shoot about what's in front of them.
They're not asking if the father is negligent, they're demanding she be removed so they don't have to give a shoot about what's in front of them.
derrick
The Glue that binds us together.
- Location
- On the edge of London
sorted.
Sara_H
Guru
The obvious answer is that the problem isn't the age or ability of the cyclist but that for parents there is not really an option to cycle safely and legally with children in large parts of the UK.
I started riding with my son on the roads four years ago when he was 9, but for the most part it was horrible. I didn't enjoy it at all, it's one of the most horrible things ever watching your precious child get close passed deliberately or impatiently.What is wrong with people? But I was passionately committed to the idea of our right to cycle so I persevered.
When I got deliberately driven into 18 months ago, I stopped taking my son out by bike. It was the straw that broke the donkey's back. I realised I wasn't prepared to risk him being injured in the same way. Now I either drive or take the bus when we go somewhere together.
Recently, we had to go to one of his football matches a few miles away that we couldn't really get to by bus (the buses here are crap, especially evenings and weekends) and I didn't have the car that day (I haven't got a car, it's my boyfriends car that I borrow occasionally) so took the very rare decision that we would ride. I checked out that there were pavements on the roads that felt too dangerous to ride on.. We were riding on a pavement, a wide one, very slowly, considerately. We stopped to allow a couple who were coming towards us to pass unhindered and were subjected to some very unpleasant ranting by the old man.
I pointed out to him that roads weren't safe for children and that we'd stopped to allow them to pass unhindered, but he just ranted more.
Safe cycle infrastructure that can be used by children is absolutely vital, until we get that, we are not going to see people give up their cars and all the benefits that come with that.
I started riding with my son on the roads four years ago when he was 9, but for the most part it was horrible. I didn't enjoy it at all, it's one of the most horrible things ever watching your precious child get close passed deliberately or impatiently.What is wrong with people? But I was passionately committed to the idea of our right to cycle so I persevered.
When I got deliberately driven into 18 months ago, I stopped taking my son out by bike. It was the straw that broke the donkey's back. I realised I wasn't prepared to risk him being injured in the same way. Now I either drive or take the bus when we go somewhere together.
Recently, we had to go to one of his football matches a few miles away that we couldn't really get to by bus (the buses here are crap, especially evenings and weekends) and I didn't have the car that day (I haven't got a car, it's my boyfriends car that I borrow occasionally) so took the very rare decision that we would ride. I checked out that there were pavements on the roads that felt too dangerous to ride on.. We were riding on a pavement, a wide one, very slowly, considerately. We stopped to allow a couple who were coming towards us to pass unhindered and were subjected to some very unpleasant ranting by the old man.
I pointed out to him that roads weren't safe for children and that we'd stopped to allow them to pass unhindered, but he just ranted more.
Safe cycle infrastructure that can be used by children is absolutely vital, until we get that, we are not going to see people give up their cars and all the benefits that come with that.
Last edited:
Someone I know recently posted a boast of their IQ being 92. I was too polite to comment
yes, it is. When my son was 13ish he was stopped and a warning on the post for cycling on a pavement.
As for would I do this, no I wouldn't. My children weren't cycle savvy at the age of still using stabilisers.
I don't think it is an age issue though, its about knowing your child and how responsible or aware they can be on the road.
For me, it would be too stressful to keep them on track and up to speed. But I don't think it's dangerous per se. Cycling on the road should be perfectly safe at any age though, providing no idiot attempts to mow you down!
- Location
- Glasgow
Also by slow coaches like me: roads like an "always green" left filter lane are murder for me to cycle on, drivers simply don't want to wait.
If I'm firmly in primary either I get beeped or get a punishment pass, just not worth chancing it.
- Location
- Glasgow
Sadly, I'm turning left too, it's my way home. I normally take the pavement there for a very short stretch, to avoid the aggro, considering as well that I should then, if staying on the road, turn right at pinch point after about 100 meters.
Different scenario, in town: there is a lane for only turning left into a shopping car park, this is stated clearly by signs and road marks. I want to go straight, you think the right position for me would be in the right lane: tried that, got beeped, gestured to go in the left lane. Either that, or get overtaken from the left.
No cycling in the fast lane for me!
ozboz
Guru
- Location
- Richmond ,Surrey
The original OP question ,
would you do this with your child ?
Answer ;
No
Not on a quiet B road , I have been driving since 1970, all sorts of vehicles , over the last three weeks alone I covered 4000 miles + from the Midlands to Mid Lothian Scotland,
As I look at that , as a driver , there is no way of knowing what will happen or come around that bend or on which side .
Also , as a Dad ( of four ) I would always ride in file behind the child , that bloke is in front and wide of the child ,
His choice , not a good one in my book ,
would you do this with your child ?
Answer ;
No
Not on a quiet B road , I have been driving since 1970, all sorts of vehicles , over the last three weeks alone I covered 4000 miles + from the Midlands to Mid Lothian Scotland,
As I look at that , as a driver , there is no way of knowing what will happen or come around that bend or on which side .
Also , as a Dad ( of four ) I would always ride in file behind the child , that bloke is in front and wide of the child ,
His choice , not a good one in my book ,
Tom B
Guru
- Location
- Lancashire
In my area police aree encouraged to engage and improve. i.e. no lights... issue a ticket but agree/give the option that if the rider presents himself in the next week with a set of lights fitted then the ticket is ripped up...
As for riding on the pavement/paths I saw this article - Attached form the CTC mag.
Particularly the comments by Boatang MP regarding the "spirit" of the law.
As a side note I remember my father moving the stablisers up on my bike to induce more "rock" and teaching me to sit on the wheel rather than the stablisers. He challenged me to ride around the edge of our cul de sac without putting the stablisers down.
Attachments
Last edited:
Nigelnaturist
Guru
- Location
- Pontefract
I found one that gave the results, though not sure how accurate it was, I always though mine I.Q. a bit on the low side, this said above average so I guess it wasn't so accurate.I did one of those online IQ tests once. After spending about 30 minutes answering all sorts of tricky questions, the site displayed a popup which said something like "Wow, you got a really high score - CONGRATULATIONS! To get detailed results, please sign up below. We accept all major debit/credit cards and PayPal" but I was too smart to fall for that scam so I never found out what my score actually was!
Regarding the O.P. don't think I would take a child on stabilisers on a busy road but I have escorted a 7 year old around a 10 mile ride near me, its not busy as such but it can have it's fair share of traffic and H.G.V.'s from a quarry part way round.
