Would you help to stop it?

[vernon]

Oversimplified for effect. However it is common enough, something of which I don't get. Your either happy about it or not. You don't then when someone stops it attack that person. Its much like Stockholm syndrome although I'm sure it has its own name. It is still an illogical reaction.

It's nothing like Stockholm Syndrome.

 

[Cycling Dan]

I have only recently realised that Cycling Dan is just a kid, so he doesn't yet have enough experience of real life and real women to be able to say anything sensible on the subject.

(Kid like) *insert mum joke here*

 

[steve52]

i used to believe in intervening, confident that other decent people would come to my aid. however society dosent want us to do (imo) the right thing, so id pull up a chair and watch until it became uninteresting and then be on my way.the exception being child abuse, or olerd people being bullied or mugged, when id intervene

 

[Cycling Dan]

i used to believe in intervening, confident that other decent people would come to my aid. however society dosent want us to do (imo) the right thing, so id pull up a chair and watch until it became uninteresting and then be on my way.the exception being child abuse, or olerd people being bullied or mugged, when id intervene

You should visit liveleak some time.

 

[Cycling Dan]

It's nothing like Stockholm Syndrome.

In deed its not. I mistook it for something else. I would be interested into if it has a name.

 

[vernon]

I have only recently realised that Cycling Dan is just a kid, so he doesn't yet have enough experience of real life and real women to be able to say anything sensible on the subject.

Cycling Dan is closely related to Matthew_T judging by the flawed logic that's deployed in his diatribes.

 

[Cycling Dan]

....and you never see them in the same room at the same time

Give me a sec I have to relog

 

[vernon]

Give me a sec I have to relog

That's OK Matt. We can wait.

 

[Cycling Dan]

That's OK Matt. We can wait.

Hold on give me a sec.
I have to run to the other room.

(@Matthew_T where are you? You're needed )

 

[glasgowcyclist]

I have intervened in the past, once in a life-threatening situation. In each case the tipping point for my involvement appeared very quickly after I first became aware of the fight and my reaction was more a reflex than planned. Nobody knows for sure how they'd react until they're presented with it. If I'd considered all the negative (for me) outcomes before reaching a decision, there's at least one young man who may very well have died. As it was he suffered serious head injuries. Then again, I could have become a victim myself but I was lucky. (Although after I'd restrained the assailant, another witness punched me in the head while trying to have a go at him.)

I'd like to think I would do the same again but every circumstance is different.

GC

 

[Cycling Dan]

Don't diss your mum, she's probably had more sex than you.

That made me think of this weird guy there was at my CBT course. The instructor played himself as a ladies man and hes in deep etc. Then the student comes out with he would love to shag his niece. Naturally you can think of our reaction thinking he was joking. We give him plenty of chances to tell us he was joking but nope he kept going at it.

He started to talk about moments he had and how if he could get away with it he would. Since she was "fit". Well he left first and that was the talk for the rest of the day. Werid as hell is nothing short of what he was.

The instructor said "fark he was weird. Hes not coming back" Then something along the lines of " I thought he was joking but Christ that kid needs someone to looking into his case"
For a 33 year old man he was odd.

I am not doing the event justice.


Anyway too much deviation.

 

[Gravity Aided]

 

[Silver Fox]

When you're sprawled out in the gutter, bleeding profusely with a 6 inch blade in your gut, being the Good Samaritan may not have been the best thing to do.

 

[cd365]

I have intervened in the past and would again in the future.

 

[RWright]

I saw something similar but more troubling the other day when I went to the grocery store. I pulled in the parking lot and saw a lady sitting on the ground between two cars, the drivers door on one was opened. I saw a couple of people who obviously saw her in distress, just walk by and say or do nothing. They just walked by. I had sort of a hard time believing what I was seeing.

I got out of my truck and walked over and said something stupid like "are you ok", while she was struggling to get her balance to even sit up. She looked up at me and said I have a broken foot, and I saw a cast on her foot. I also noticed it looked like she had wet her pants. I looked at her eyes and they seemed clear but I had the feeling something else was wrong. I didn't know if she had just had a seizure or was drinking or on drugs or what. (I suspect the doctors gave her some good painkillers when she broke her foot) I asked her if she wanted to get up and she said yes, so she held out her arms and I got behind her and lifted her to her feet. She was strong enough to support herself with her arms as I lifted her. I was glad of that since she was tall, thin and had big boobs. I didn't want anyone to think I was some perv trying to cop a feel of the hot drunk chick. I know, I think of some of some strange stuff at the weirdest moments sometimes.

When I got her back standing she had to lean on the car to keep her balance. I knew something was wrong with her but didn't know what, and didn't ask. I did suggest she get in the back seat since I didn't think she was in any condition to drive but she said she would sit in the divers seat, that she was waiting on someone shopping in the store. I did not feel totally comfortable putting her in the drivers seat but I felt better about it since she told me someone in the store would be coming out soon to take her home.

I left her there smiling and thanking me while I went into the store. The store manager had seen me put her in the car and thanked me. I see the kid there at the store and chat with him sometimes, he told me someone had told me there was a lady on the ground in the parking lot. I said why the hell didn't they help her, he said, "that is what I said". We both just shook our heads and I gave him basically the same story you just read, well maybe without the narrative of my though process, not the perv part anyway. I then saw her driving off by herself in the car I put her in. I told him that I hoped she didn't kill anyone or get killed driving home.

It troubled me some that she drove off and had lied to me and it troubled me that I actually started thinking about what I was doing as I approached her to help her. Even ten years ago I would have never though about it for a split second. I would have done it totally on instinct. I am not sure the world is changing me for the better or not. I would do what I did every time but the part of leaving her at the car was one of those damned if you do damned if you don't situations. I had no way to actually stop her from driving, not sure how I would handle that part if I had it to do over.

The situation I was in was much less stressful than the physical confrontation scenario would be, I guess I would probably step in or just call 911 and tell them the cops will be here shortly. I have a few friends that were bouncers in bars and clubs in my working class town, so they had some experience in those situations. They normally were very good at cooling things off because they were good at it and were also big strong guys. They all told me one thing I have not forgotten. If there is a man and woman confrontation, get between them but NEVER turn your back to the woman. They will often times start attacking you when you are trying to get things calmed down. They all said they would much rather deal with males.