Would you trust this flame on your stove?
- Thread starter Salty seadog
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Ming the Merciless
There is no mercy
- Location
- Inside my skull
That’s not got sufficient air (oxygen) in the combustion mix. Flame should be blue with short orange tip, Could be a blockage, suggest giving it a clean. Is it just than one that’s orange or all four?
twentysix by twentyfive
Clinging on tightly
- Location
- Over the Hill
Sommat wrong there for sure
Ming the Merciless
There is no mercy
- Location
- Inside my skull
I would add that’ll be a source of Carbon Monoxide if left on. Known as a silent killer as you can’t smell it, see it etc.
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Salty seadog
Space Cadet...(3rd Class...)
Just tried them all and they seem OK. I noticed it on another burner a couple of weeks ago.
Time for a good clean.
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Salty seadog
Space Cadet...(3rd Class...)
It will be tomorrow.
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Salty seadog
Space Cadet...(3rd Class...)
Nope, he likes a bacon sandwich, just can't eat one properly.
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Salty seadog
Space Cadet...(3rd Class...)
Yes that's my concern and why I ask.
ColinJ
Puzzle game procrastinator!
- Location
- Todmorden - Yorks/Lancs border
I accidentally experimented with CO poisoning and therefore enthusiastically second your warning!!
(I blacked out but eventually came round and was able to crawl to safety before blacking out again.)
ColinJ
Puzzle game procrastinator!
- Location
- Todmorden - Yorks/Lancs border
I now have CO detectors in the house as well as smoke detectors!
Incidentally, don't make the other mistake that I made**. I had survived and thought that was that. What I didn't know is that it is important to be treated with oxygen ASAP to flush CO out of the bloodstream to limit the damage it will still be doing. I am pretty sure that I suffered minor brain damage and maybe even damage to my heart. I have never been quite the same since.
** The first 2 mistakes were...
- Not having gas appliances checked
- Not having CO detectors
Saw a TV program some time ago about how CO detectors have a "threshold" and lonbg term exposure below their threshold can cause really bad long term impacts that are very difficult for medics to diagnose (because cause could be a wide variety of issues).
So, in US CDC recommend CO detectors with a digital readout rather than some pre-programmed threshold https://www.cdc.gov/carbon-monoxide/about/index.html
Ian
Time Waster
Veteran
There was a guy who got CO poisoning at work one morning. Didn't realise but after lunch people thought he had a liquid lunch until someone saw the symptoms for what they were. Straight to hospital A&E and treatment. He got sent home as ok, because he seemed ok. He was not and IIRC Friday night he took a turn for the worst. Air ambulance to the police HQ and the police dive squad as the only free decompression chamber nearby (dive school was already in use I think). He spent something like 2 weeks in high pressure, high oxygen content chamber. It took probably 10 or 15 years for his brain to rewire itself such that he was close to his old self. Even so he had a lower sense of embarassment and tended to be unable to filter things he said. He ended up with a very good 6 figure payout from that and got paid by the company for 2 years on sick at full pay. After that he came back with a promotion.
Apparently CO has a 200 to 300 times the affinity to heamoglobin in red blood cells than oxygen. In other words you cannot easily remove CO from red blood cells so once attached they stop oxygen being carried around by the red blood cells. To make oxygen more likely to attach to heamoglobin you need a high O2 content (potentially toxic) and a higher air pressure environment (AIUI that lowers the concentration of O2 needed). That and some time in that environment to allow the exchange from CO to O2 in the heamoglobin.
So my advise is always be CO aware with gas appliances. Get a CO monitor. We always carried one in our tent when camping (car camping admittedly). When not car camping we cooked outside completely with no porch cooking or in tent/tarp cooking. Not worth the risk.
Oh and replace the monitors often as I do not think they last.
Apparently CO has a 200 to 300 times the affinity to heamoglobin in red blood cells than oxygen. In other words you cannot easily remove CO from red blood cells so once attached they stop oxygen being carried around by the red blood cells. To make oxygen more likely to attach to heamoglobin you need a high O2 content (potentially toxic) and a higher air pressure environment (AIUI that lowers the concentration of O2 needed). That and some time in that environment to allow the exchange from CO to O2 in the heamoglobin.
So my advise is always be CO aware with gas appliances. Get a CO monitor. We always carried one in our tent when camping (car camping admittedly). When not car camping we cooked outside completely with no porch cooking or in tent/tarp cooking. Not worth the risk.
Oh and replace the monitors often as I do not think they last.
Electric_Andy
Heavy Metal Fan
- Location
- Plymouth
We have a CO monitor - I thought it was mandatory if you have a gas boiler/cooker? They pick it up every time we have a boiler service and say it should be mounted on the wall and not freestanding, but as long as it's present it's ok
