You can't go wrong with god on your side.....can you ??

[Drago]

Doesn't the existence of God rely upon fairpth?

Therefore, prove that God exists and you have evidence, not faith, and he therefore cannot exist.

 

[purpan]

I’m not religious - in fact I’m an atheist, but I’m not anti-religion. I think that the official secular policy in my adopted country, France, creates many problems. Inevitably , if a country is filled with the values of one religion for centuries, those become the moral norm. In France, when people talk proudly about the secular state, really they’re talking about a kind of Catholic secularity. Christmas is just as frantic as in Britain, and the christian saints’ days are the ones used for official national holidays. No other religion gets a look-in in this supposedly secular state; Islam is regularly demonised for political capital.
We need to respect other positions, even if we think they’re rubbish.

 

[purpan]

Doesn't the existence of God rely upon fairpth?

Therefore, prove that God exists and you have evidence, not faith, and he therefore cannot exist.

You could ask Him?
https://twitter.com/TheTweetOfGod?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^author

 

[Dolorous Edd]

Doesn't the existence of God rely upon fairpth?

Therefore, prove that God exists and you have evidence, not faith, and he therefore cannot exist.

You are Oolon Colluphid and I Claim My Five Pounds.

 

[Saluki]

@Dave7 How is your friend’s mother today?

 

[Punkawallah]

Doesn't the existence of God rely upon fairpth?

Therefore, prove that God exists and you have evidence, not faith, and he therefore cannot exist.

Which one? Out of the 2700 or so recorded deities in human history? For something that doesn’t exist, it’s extremely popular, and persistent.

What with gods being Omni and all, would they choose to exist even if there was evidence of their existence? Would they care if their existence was proven or not?

Was it Shaw who said belief in god was logical - if you are wrong, you’ve lost nothing; if you’re right, you gain everything?

 

[HMS_Dave]

I suspect you may be correct, but for all that, but for a Universe teeming so busily with life there is a distinct dearth of actual evidence of it anywhere other than upon Earth.

I thought Richard Dreyfuss laid waste this argument in the 70's with his close encounter and that they respond to communicative tunes and lights?

 

[Dirk]

Was it Shaw who said belief in god was logical - if you are wrong, you’ve lost nothing; if you’re right, you gain everything?

That was Blaise Pascal, a French philosopher who came up with that nonsense.
Pascal's Wager was only referring to the Christian God - not deities in general.
What if you spent your life believing in Jesus.....only to find out that Allah is the real God? (Or vice versa).

 

[Arrowfoot]

The issue has nothing to do with god or the existence of one. People need to believe in some form of divinity to get them thru hardship. It is primarily a crutch thru life's uncertain journey. And you can't blame them. Education has helped provide certainty and confidence, hence the continued decline of religion in the developed World.

Conversely the most religious lot are found in countries with low literacy rate.

Whats upset most people however is someone actually trying to explain there is a god. What is most amazing is among the god fearing nations, rape, murder, theft, fraud etc are no different.

 

[mustang1]

The problem with that sort of thinking is that it very quickly leads to the old
"I don't need a vaccine because God will protect me"
or even
"If you had been a good person and trusted God then this wouldn;t have happened to you"
and before you know it you are in one of 'those" parts of the USA

quite a dangerous attitude in some ways

Nah, you get two types:
1. We dont need vaccine coz god'll save us
2. We trust in god that gave the opportunity for science to create the vaccine for us
Kinda cool really, these guys have things figured out. Have cake AND eat it. (Now go and visit the diabetes thread).

 

[mustang1]

I'm not religious but the idea of having $diety to refer to (also to "blame") when things go wrong is quite a powerful thing. If you are annoyed at your job, you can live for god. If you have marital problems, you can live for god.

So, think not of it as god, but something, call it what you will: nature, mother nature, god, sunworshipping. You got some exams coming up? Do it for god. It might make you study harder. This has been my observation of people.

 

[Dave7]

@Dave7 How is your friend’s mother today?

Thanks for asking Saluki.
No change yet.
Apparently she can respond to small things like "squeeze my fingers" but as yet they cannot promise anything.

 

[Rusty Nails]

God works in mysterious ways............

Her miracles to perform

 

[Rusty Nails]

I would agree with you there. Despite my adamant atheism of decades past I find that I am starting to wonder if there really might be the big feller upstairs.

Or a little woman doing the job part-time to supplement her earnings.

 

[Dave7]

What data was used to arrive at that probability?
Citation needed.

He prayed and it came to him in a vision