snorri said:Not true.
Some motorists get along fine without paying VED, and by using red diesel.
tractor-driving teuchters don't count as motorists. they're only s'posed to be on the road to get from field A to field B
snorri said:Not true.
Some motorists get along fine without paying VED, and by using red diesel.
User1314 said:I've been involved in two scenarios in the last couple of years:
Scenario 1:
Bloke driving car: "You don't pay road tax."
Me: "I pay road tax (sic) on my car at home."
Bloke - after a confused hesitation, and not wanting to be trumped: "But you don't pay road-tax on your bike."
Lizban said:So how does a motorist drive on the road and not pay tax?
(don't forget fuel duty before spurting the £0 VED band line )
Lizban said:Let me try and explain this again - what you say is clearly correct to a point
BUT a motorist to use the road must pay tax - (either VED if requried or fuel duty) - The common parlance for this is 'road tax' - technically not correct for the reason you and others have listed but a neat little short hand.
Therefore to drive he must pay a tax that cyclists don't. So the simple reply of saying to the motorist you are wrong I think is in fact incorrect. Hence the point of this discussion
mm101 said:I don't think the 'you don't pay tax' comments deserve any kind of riposte at all.
Saying that to a complete stranger, minding their own business is 1) rude 2) mean spirited 3) petty minded. Anyone petty minded enough to do such a thing is not going to be open minded enough to take on board the counter-argument and are likely to have a selfish mindset generally.
There is room for all. We all have to learn to fit in with each other and share
Lizban said:Agree.
What about to a colleague or other non cyclist person who yuo can have a conversation with
It's not.Lizban said:There is no tax called 'road tax'. (with funding coming from general taxation.)
But you must pay tax to drive on the road (with VED lower for smaller cars) but having to pay fuel tax (duty). Which MAY be what motorists mean when they say 'road tax'
Tynan said:I use to hitch a lot and truck drivers usually mentioned that they paid over a grand for 'road tax' and therefore should have more right to the road than cars