Hacienda71
Mancunian in self imposed exile in leafy Cheshire
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Maybe he should just go out for a ride with him in real life... 
Zwift B S’s.
- Thread starter Milzy
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Milzy
Guru
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The question is are people happy with single sided power meters or is it worth paying more for double sided?
berty bassett
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real world riding you have junctions.traffic ,pot holes and of course wind all slowing you down - no way i can reach zwift speeds - even with no wind there is still air resistance but as long as the turbo is constant in its readings then if you are getting faster on turbo , you are improving
dont think in my eyes that dual side power meters make much difference to single side - you are still producing that power - you just dont know if its evenly produced
zwift is competitive and fun but in the real world i would never try until my legs feel like they are dropping off and have to slump across the handlebars - you have to get home !
dont think in my eyes that dual side power meters make much difference to single side - you are still producing that power - you just dont know if its evenly produced
zwift is competitive and fun but in the real world i would never try until my legs feel like they are dropping off and have to slump across the handlebars - you have to get home !
If you ride on Zwift solo, the speeds are very comparable to outdoor. Bear in mind though, Zwift works the speed from power/weight/drag/ gradient. The power if you've got a decent PM is accurate, weight that's upto you to be honest( Zwift doesnt take into account bike weight/bottles/tools) Drag is calculated on weight and height but no wind scenario. gradient, just is
So next time you're out on the road in a no wind situation on the flat section of road the speed is pretty accurate.
Strava shows watts and w/kg so you shouldn't need to guess - and from those figures you can work out what his weight is on Strava. Obviously this won't tell you what weight he's input on Zwift, but if he's on Zwiftpower you'll be able to see his Zwift weight (and compare with Strava). So if someone you know in real life is on both Zwiftpower and Strava, there's really no way to "weight dope" without it being obvious. Doesn't mean he's not got a dodgy turbo trainer though.
I used to have a Bkool Pro which was generally a bit over-generous on the watts it reported on Zwift (and occasionally super-generous until switched off and on again for some reason). And there's a particular problem on steep climbs with some lower end trainers too, which is they can't replicate slopes above a certain % gradient so max out their resistance if set to 100% difficulty on Zwift. This can fool Zwift into thinking you're producing more power than you are on steep inclines. Lowering the "difficulty" setting resolves this to some extent - which is partly what that setting's there for - but of course no one's forced to do this and you don't know whether they have or not.
Having said all that, the Bkool wouldn't have given me anything like a 16 minute advantage up Alpe Du Zwift though!
Crook Town AFC
Dave Wade on BRVR
If you are interested in power meters you may want to check out the "VeloNews Podcast", available by searching on itunes. Look for "Tech pod, ep12: How does a power meter work?" dated 6th Dec 2018. Quite an informative talk about PMs including discussing single vs double sided. I think it comes in round about the 13 minute mark if memory serves.
<Tommy>
Illegitimi non carborundum
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- Camden, London
I weigh 80kg. @berty bassett only got up the real alpe d’huez about a minute faster than me and he weighs 3kg wet.
I haven’t got a point to make about this thread, but just thought I’d mention it
. Cya next summer little fella! 
I haven’t got a point to make about this thread, but just thought I’d mention it
. Cya next summer little fella! 
I weigh 80kg. @berty bassett only got up the real alpe d’huez about a minute faster than me and he weighs 3kg wet.
I haven’t got a point to make about this thread, but just thought I’d mention it
berty bassett
Legendary Member
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- I'boro
I waited for youI weigh 80kg. @berty bassett only got up the real alpe d’huez about a minute faster than me and he weighs 3kg wet.
I haven’t got a point to make about this thread, but just thought I’d mention it
<Tommy>
Illegitimi non carborundum
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- Camden, London
bobinski
Legendary Member
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- Tulse Hill
Liar, liar pants on fire! If Tommy was coming up from behind ( and I don’t mean in SoHo) you would bend over, sorry, bury yourself to stay in front and you know it!
Ming the Merciless
There is no mercy
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Ensuring you are improving on your own trainer is the key point. The figures others are pumping out does not matter. Unless of course you are preparing for the TDF or track world championships.
<Tommy>
Illegitimi non carborundum
- Location
- Camden, London
And he’s got the bumps and bruises to prove it!
Alongo
Guru
Some young kid at work, maybe 16/17 years younger than me did a 70 min first time on the Alpe du Zwift , 4 months later and a bit of training , a few more practice runs , a bit of tenacity and hard work he does a 55 min time up the Alpe. I’m calling respect on his time
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