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[13 rider]

Very disappointing 2 races for me just didn't have the legs , time trail I just use as a power test so bike choice makes no difference as I'm not really racing it hence the road bike this morning . Power was 25 watts down from last week when normally I can do more power uphill . Main race hung on until the climb after the Brae went deep up the Brae and a kick over the top to get back on but knew I was doomed if it kicked off on the next climb which it did ,didn't have the legs to catch the guy behind me as she past so a long solo relaxed effort . At this point it's the nearest I've ever come to quitting a race I was certainly questioning my life choices 😁

 

[alex_cycles]

Very disappointing 2 races for me just didn't have the legs , time trail I just use as a power test so bike choice makes no difference as I'm not really racing it hence the road bike this morning . Power was 25 watts down from last week when normally I can do more power uphill . Main race hung on until the climb after the Brae went deep up the Brae and a kick over the top to get back on but knew I was doomed if it kicked off on the next climb which it did ,didn't have the legs to catch the guy behind me as she past so a long solo relaxed effort . At this point it's the nearest I've ever come to quitting a race I was certainly questioning my life choices 😁

I really didn't feel strong this morning either. Time was I liked that hilly KoM, but today it was horrible. I can't believe I've done it in 2 minutes in a no draft race before. I was something like 2:13 today - and it hurt.

Race 2 I got dropped from the front pack on the next hill after you. Then Tim caught me, then Kelsey caught us and I just tucked in and destroyed them both on the final 1.1km climb It was quite refreshing to go up the Brae in "easy" mode on lap 2. I normally can't resist smashing that one.

 

[13 rider]

I really didn't feel strong this morning either. Time was I liked that hilly KoM, but today it was horrible. I can't believe I've done it in 2 minutes in a no draft race before. I was something like 2:13 today - and it hurt.

Race 2 I got dropped from the front pack on the next hill after you. Then Tim caught me, then Kelsey caught us and I just tucked in and destroyed them both on the final 1.1km climb It was quite refreshing to go up the Brae in "easy" mode on lap 2. I normally can't resist smashing that one.

Watched your video I was so close to just hanging on over the top over the kick after the Brae but couldn't kick to close the gap as it went downhill and was so spent when Kelsae came by I was out of gas to even think about catching her wheel. Perhaps I could have accepted my fate before the climb not gone deep and latched on to Kelsae but I was desperate to hang onto the group

 

[alex_cycles]

Watched your video I was so close to just hanging on over the top over the kick after the Brae but couldn't kick to close the gap as it went downhill and was so spent when Kelsae came by I was out of gas to even think about catching her wheel. Perhaps I could have accepted my fate before the climb not gone deep and latched on to Kelsae but I was desperate to hang onto the group

I guess I pushed thing a little at the top of the first Brae, but not that much. Like you I was one dig short on the start of the long final climb after reverse corkscrew castle. Martijn was behind me and he managed to get back on. Mind you I kicked his arse in race 1, so perhaps he was saving it for race 2 or just wanted to get me back

Anyway you're still doing well 5th overall. The way I've done the points is to disincentivise people jumping into race 2 and racing it fresh. Basically you can't win the League doing that. That was one of the reasons I wanted to beat Tim Tobbe at the end. He skipped race 1, so needed to be taught a lesson. (He and Kelsey are from one of our ZRL teams).

@13 rider do you have any course suggestions/requests for future Friday Smashes? The format is still going to be ~2km then a 20-30 minute drafting race, but anything that fits that could be done.

 

[Whorty]

Anyone planning to do the Rapha Festive 500 this year? I'm usually away visiting family at some point over Xmas so have never even tried but I think I will give it a go this year (probably mostly if not all on Zwift!)

Not me. I'm heading off to Egypt on 27th for 6 days, to escape the madness. I'll almost certainly ride xmas day, but it won't be 500 km haha

 

[13 rider]

I guess I pushed thing a little at the top of the first Brae, but not that much. Like you I was one dig short on the start of the long final climb after reverse corkscrew castle. Martijn was behind me and he managed to get back on. Mind you I kicked his arse in race 1, so perhaps he was saving it for race 2 or just wanted to get me back

Anyway you're still doing well 5th overall. The way I've done the points is to disincentivise people jumping into race 2 and racing it fresh. Basically you can't win the League doing that. That was one of the reasons I wanted to beat Tim Tobbe at the end. He skipped race 1, so needed to be taught a lesson. (He and Kelsey are from one of our ZRL teams).

@13 rider do you have any course suggestions/requests for future Friday Smashes? The format is still going to be ~2km then a 20-30 minute drafting race, but anything that fits that could be done.

There's a lot of the newer New York routes which would fit the bill for distance either 1 lap or multiple laps you might get people jumping on for route badges . The routes that go over the bridges are horrible to race as the drags over the bridge seem just steep and long enough to split groups . The flatter courses would be for the sprinters . The TT it dosnt really matter on course but not making a flat route every week keeps it interesting . Today's course was so difficult to pace , save for the climb or go flat out on the flat

 

[CXRAndy]

After 10 days of general malaise, I thought I'd treat my untrained body to a race. Thankfully it wasn't a balls out from the get go, which was nice. A few riders tried for solo breakaway, which ultimately didn't amount to much

Final sprint exposed my lack of riding and I faded to near back of the lead pack. I was rewarded with a bronze on ZP.


View: https://youtu.be/i4hGtTsHXRQ?si=vWBePWw2asmfyME-

 

[Norry1]

I guess I pushed thing a little at the top of the first Brae, but not that much. Like you I was one dig short on the start of the long final climb after reverse corkscrew castle. Martijn was behind me and he managed to get back on. Mind you I kicked his arse in race 1, so perhaps he was saving it for race 2 or just wanted to get me back

Anyway you're still doing well 5th overall. The way I've done the points is to disincentivise people jumping into race 2 and racing it fresh. Basically you can't win the League doing that. That was one of the reasons I wanted to beat Tim Tobbe at the end. He skipped race 1, so needed to be taught a lesson. (He and Kelsey are from one of our ZRL teams).

@13 rider do you have any course suggestions/requests for future Friday Smashes? The format is still going to be ~2km then a 20-30 minute drafting race, but anything that fits that could be done.

I'd like maybe one race where my finish time would be just over 5 mins - so I can have a bash at a Power PB.

Yesterday, I improved my 3 min 2025 Indoor PB by 7W and my 4 min by 23W.

Still had my arse handed to me

 

[alex_cycles]

I'd like maybe one race where my finish time would be just over 5 mins - so I can have a bash at a Power PB.

I know a perfect race for that. Everything Bagel, 2km to the base, then finishing at the top of the KoM.

It's more of an 8-9 minute race but if you start at the bottom, the full climb is a good hard 5m effort.

Maybe we could do that one week.

Yesterday, I improved my 3 min 2025 Indoor PB by 7W and my 4 min by 23W.

Yeah I got a new season 4m power record, but it's well short of all-time best.

Still had my arse handed to me

It's all this silly long stuff you've been doing for outdoors over the summer. Endurance is bad for your short racing

 

[Norry1]

I know a perfect race for that. Everything Bagel, 2km to the base, then finishing at the top of the KoM.

It's more of an 8-9 minute race but if you start at the bottom, the full climb is a good hard 5m effort.

Maybe we could do that one week.



Yeah I got a new season 4m power record, but it's well short of all-time best.



It's all this silly long stuff you've been doing for outdoors over the summer. Endurance is bad for your short racing

Very True

I'm now following a TrainerRoad Programme (Since August) and am enteringthe Specialty Phase - which has 2 VO2 Max or Anaerobic workouts per week - so my short stuff should pick up soon.

I know I go on about it, but it is a shame I can't do indoors the power I can do outdoors.

 

[Brusgaard]

Anyone planning to do the Rapha Festive 500 this year? I'm usually away visiting family at some point over Xmas so have never even tried but I think I will give it a go this year (probably mostly if not all on Zwift!)

Sure, but none of it on Zwift.

 

[N0bodyOfTheGoat]

I know I go on about it, but it is a shame I can't do indoors the power I can do outdoors.

Are you not getting heat adaption to indoors within ~3 weeks of regular z4+ efforts, plenty of fluid and a good fan?