Zwift Chat

[CXRAndy]

Every inch counts

Does in out household

 

[CXRAndy]

One INCH??

From one Yorkshire folk to another

 

[CXRAndy]

Bit of proper racing and the C team are all licking their wounds!

Im D cat so


View: https://youtu.be/ppv97S3ih14

 

[berty bassett]

Think it’s only fair for the big watt boys to have a longer tt so it mirrors the time of last night
There wasn’t much point of a long flat stage as it came down to the last 5 mins but a tt there will be nowhere to hide , get the watts wrong and pay big time

 

[CXRAndy]

Actually the B boyz took a good beating too

 

[Whorty]

Actually the B boyz took a good beating too

Did some of them get beat by an asthmatic C cat rider?

 

[berty bassett]

Yes, definietly B numbers tonight on that climb. Yet I still can't win any C races

Can't be long now until I'm promoted by ZP ... any climbing race would do it so I avoid those .... looking at the next league though, I think I'll be buggered pretty quickly!

I understand your dilemma
I never came close to winning anything in B and was regularly beaten by tommy and Paul
But because of weight , the wkg bumps me into a cat where I stand no chance at all and come last in most races
Simple facts are , if you are holding back and dodging certain races , taunting other riders about their pedestrian speed , blasting out 10wkg when you choose then you should really consider B
You are easy good enough and in my humble opinion will only get better if pushing
Totally understand about the team thing and other teams have ringers in their team but doing the same doesn’t seem right to me
This is not a put down in any way you do whatever you think

 

[bridgy]

Those asking for an hour long TT obviously haven't done many TTs recently . You're crazy - an ITT is brutally hard and the last one I did was 28 minutes and I was counting down every 100 metres and begging for the end with more than 10 minutes to go! Having said that, I tend to agree with those who think a 20 minute blast is a bit short for what we had in mind for this series (might be an idea as a "prologue" stage for a future series though?)

The Neokyo route is 25.3km as a meetup (1km more than the "official" segment). I did the shorter 24.3km in 39:30 at 212 watts and soemone I follow did 37 minutes at 245 watts. So I think the one lap should come in at between 30 and 40 minutes for most of us. Personally I think this is enough for an ITT, especially with that cheeky climb included.

So I propose we go for one 25.3km lap of Neokyo All-Nighter - sorry if you think it should be longer but you'll be thanking me next Wednesday night!

 

[Whorty]

I understand your dilemma
I never came close to winning anything in B and was regularly beaten by tommy and Paul
But because of weight , the wkg bumps me into a cat where I stand no chance at all and come last in most races
Simple facts are , if you are holding back and dodging certain races , taunting other riders about their pedestrian speed , blasting out 10wkg when you choose then you should really consider B
You are easy good enough and in my humble opinion will only get better if pushing
Totally understand about the team thing and other teams have ringers in their team but doing the same doesn’t seem right to me
This is not a put down in any way you do whatever you think

Thing is, I'm not holding back in any race and you can see that from my heart rate that is over 190. I can sprint at over 10 w/kg early in a race but not at the final sprint. Climbs are different though as it's holding that tempo power that seems easier .... most races though are flat/rolling where I can't get into B numbers hence why I'm still C.

When I get promoted, I'll go to B. But I'm not doing it just because some people think I should or accuse me of holding back when I'm not. Now can we drop this as I'm doing feck all wrong.

 

[straas]

I've done a few C cat crit races and it's definitely more fun fighting at the front than solo-ing at the back.

Largely my power/weight puts me in C, but due to time constraints I tend to do the crit races which pushes me into B cat.

My main challenge is to lose weight to get the w/kg up.

Edit: Just plotted my available weight data, it's all over the place but the general trend is obvious (and worrying!)

 

[Whorty]

Those asking for an hour long TT obviously haven't done many TTs recently . You're crazy - an ITT is brutally hard and the last one I did was 28 minutes and I was counting down every 100 metres and begging for the end with more than 10 minutes to go! Having said that, I tend to agree with those who think a 20 minute blast is a bit short for what we had in mind for this series (might be an idea as a "prologue" stage for a future series though?)

The Neokyo route is 25.3km as a meetup (1km more than the "official" segment). I did the shorter 24.3km in 39:30 at 212 watts and soemone I follow did 37 minutes at 245 watts. So I think the one lap should come in at between 30 and 40 minutes for most of us. Personally I think this is enough for an ITT, especially with that cheeky climb included.

So I propose we go for one 25.3km lap of Neokyo All-Nighter - sorry if you think it should be longer but you'll be thanking me next Wednesday night!

Yes, I'd agree. iTT's are hard as nowhere to hide or rest. And if we all start together on TT bikes with no draft, the chasing down of others etc with make it brutal!

 

[Aleman]

Ya, probs - so might revert back to original saddle height, move saddle forward and see how that goes.

I should never have started to fiddle with it in the first place.

Set it up like a bike that fits you and is comfortable.

1) Mark a point 120mm from the back of the saddle, on each bike
2) From that point measure down to the centre of the cranks on the "Old" bike and transfer that to the "new" bike (saddle height)
3) From the 120mm point measure to the centre of the handlebars, and transfer that to the "new" bike (Reach)
4) Place a spirit level horizontally from the saddle and measure down at 90 degrees to the top of the handlebars at the stem. Transfer to the new bike (Drop)

Now assuming that the set back of the new bike, the Q-Factor and Crank Lengths are the same or pretty similar, you new bike should have a pretty comfortable feel ... it's often a case of adjusting within + or - 5mm from those transferred markers for me.

 

[Aleman]

We have a chap in the Fylde coasters who enjoys his TT's ... The usual 10 milers, but also the 25 milers and even 50 and 100miles over a hilly course!!

Personally I think the guy is a fruit loop, with a side order of Nuts, but each to thier own.

Oh, he also does hill climbs, whatever they are!!!

 

[berty bassett]

Thing is, I'm not holding back in any race and you can see that from my heart rate that is over 190. I can sprint at over 10 w/kg early in a race but not at the final sprint. Climbs are different though as it's holding that tempo power that seems easier .... most races though are flat/rolling where I can't get into B numbers hence why I'm still C.

When I get promoted, I'll go to B. But I'm not doing it just because some people think I should or accuse me of holding back when I'm not. Now can we drop this as I'm doing feck all wrong.

Who said you were doing anything wrong ? I just echoed what others said and commended you on performance
I offered what I went through as reference
You take that how you want as it really makes not one iota of difference to me what you do
More than willing to drop it mate

 

[Joffey]

Those asking for an hour long TT obviously haven't done many TTs recently . You're crazy - an ITT is brutally hard and the last one I did was 28 minutes and I was counting down every 100 metres and begging for the end with more than 10 minutes to go! Having said that, I tend to agree with those who think a 20 minute blast is a bit short for what we had in mind for this series (might be an idea as a "prologue" stage for a future series though?)

The Neokyo route is 25.3km as a meetup (1km more than the "official" segment). I did the shorter 24.3km in 39:30 at 212 watts and soemone I follow did 37 minutes at 245 watts. So I think the one lap should come in at between 30 and 40 minutes for most of us. Personally I think this is enough for an ITT, especially with that cheeky climb included.

So I propose we go for one 25.3km lap of Neokyo All-Nighter - sorry if you think it should be longer but you'll be thanking me next Wednesday night!

Sounds perfect