Zwift Chat

[IrishAl]

Amazingly, someone in a Cat C ZRL race last night has been DQ'd for using that now infamous cheat we recently discussed. I wonder if they were a serial user or learnt about it in the recent publicity and thought "what a great idea, I'll give that a go"?!

Totally undetectable based on Zwiftpower data we can see by the way, but it seems WTRL are now actively monitoring for it so that can only be a good thing until Zwift get their finger out and stop it being possible. (Because knowing Zwift it could potentially still be around next season!)

He didn't even win by the way, but he was in the front group to contest the sprint so maybe it was used to prevent being dropped at some point,

Do you know which race Paul? That might explain the reason I got dropped at the final turn round l’Arc. (I wish).
I heard some chat in our discord about a rider zipping past at ease but that was later in the race and he was passing some of the groups behind the lead group. Just wondered if it was the same person.

 

[bridgy]

Do you know which race Paul? That might explain the reason I got dropped at the final turn round l’Arc. (I wish).
I heard some chat in our discord about a rider zipping past at ease but that was later in the race and he was passing some of the groups behind the lead group. Just wondered if it was the same person.

Not your race. It was in EMEA West Division C1 (the DQ code for this is code 666)

 

[Norry1]

Not your race. It was in EMEA West Division C1 (the DQ code for this is code 666)

The Devil Cheat

 

[bridgy]

Do you know which race Paul? That might explain the reason I got dropped at the final turn round l’Arc. (I wish).
I heard some chat in our discord about a rider zipping past at ease but that was later in the race and he was passing some of the groups behind the lead group. Just wondered if it was the same person.

You did have someone in your race riding with ZPower doing 3.8w/kg who got DQ'd so maybe it was them?!

 

[Peter Salt]

Found his profile: <nope, my mistake>

If you look at his race report from yesterday, my guess would be he fiddled with it around 22-23km to get some rest after the sprint.

 

[bridgy]

Found his profile: https://zwiftpower.com/profile.php?z=4352551

If you look at his race report from yesterday, my guess would be he fiddled with it around 22-23km to get some rest after the sprint.

That's not him (you should probably delete that message Peter.

The culprit looks to have been removed from ZP

 

[Peter Salt]

That's not him (you should probably delete that message Peter.

The culprit looks to have been removed from ZP

You're right, my mistake.

Shame we can't access his race report - would be interesting to see if it shows.

 

[steverob]

You did have someone in your race riding with ZPower doing 3.8w/kg who got DQ'd so maybe it was them?!

If you want to see THAT rider, then check out about 34:30 in my video below.

View: https://youtu.be/VO4SeARGoKA

As a solo rider they caught up to a drafting group of 12 by almost 20 seconds a lap, then blew past us as though we weren’t even there.

Turns out however it probably wasn’t a weight doper. Female rider (but not a lightweight by any means) putting out unrealistic watts on a poorly calibrated dumb trainer seems to be the most logical explanation (or at least that’s what WTRL went with).

 

[bridgy]

If you want to see THAT rider, then check out about 34:30 in my video below.

View: https://youtu.be/VO4SeARGoKA

As a solo rider they caught up to a drafting group of 12 by almost 20 seconds a lap, then blew past us as though we weren’t even there.

Turns out however it probably wasn’t a weight doper. Female rider (but not a lightweight by any means) putting out unrealistic watts on a poorly calibrated dumb trainer seems to be the most logical explanation (or at least that’s what WTRL went with).

Yeah that's the rider I thought it might be - as you say, on ZPower putting out crazy numbers and DQ'd as a result. Not very subtle the way they went past at 5w/kg was it!

 

[bridgy]

You're right, my mistake.

Shame we can't access his race report - would be interesting to see if it shows.

Yeah I've looked and he's been removed fromthe ZP results of last night's race, but is still on ZP in previous races. But is ZP profile is now empty of info.

Hundreds of people raced in the ZRL last night - hopefully this was a one-off, and it's good that WTRL caught him. When his data was still on ZP earlier it looked completely normal compared to the other riders around him in the results

 

[mjd1988]

Yeah I've looked and he's been removed fromthe ZP results of last night's race, but is still on ZP in previous races. But is ZP profile is now empty of info.

Hundreds of people raced in the ZRL last night - hopefully this was a one-off, and it's good that WTRL caught him. When his data was still on ZP earlier it looked completely normal compared to the other riders around him in the results

Really good that they've caught him and not revealed how either.

 

[Peter Salt]

Let me take your minds off cheaters for a minute with a few beginner cyclist questions (once again).

Subject one: Latex tubes. I heard they're a bit more puncture resistant as well as lighter and offer a lower rolling resistance. Sounds like a win on all fronts. Did also read that they might be inappropriate for carbon wheels due to some sort of heat transfer magic. Opinions on this? If they're actually good: Anyone willing to recommend a specific brand?

Subject two: Bike fit. I think that through trial-and-error I got myself to a position where I feel more-or-less comfortable on the Wattbike as well as the road bike. Some small issues still outstanding though so figured it's about time to get a proper fit and pair it with a saddle fit. One LBS in my area is a Selle Italia idmatch dealer and there's a chap that offers bike fits there. Again, any thoughts on this? Is a bike fit a good investment? Is Selle Italia considered good? I was thinking of getting a cheap/heavy version of whatever they fit me with and bolt that to the Wattbike, test it for a few weeks and if its good - then get the same shape but a bit lighter for the road bike - does that make sense?

 

[Joffey]

I spotted a 666 code in a team's results on WTRL last night. I think he only scored 9 finishing points so was well back. They had scrubbed them to 0 points when I looked.

 

[kipster]

Let me take your minds off cheaters for a minute with a few beginner cyclist questions (once again).

Subject one: Latex tubes. I heard they're a bit more puncture resistant as well as lighter and offer a lower rolling resistance. Sounds like a win on all fronts. Did also read that they might be inappropriate for carbon wheels due to some sort of heat transfer magic. Opinions on this? If they're actually good: Anyone willing to recommend a specific brand?

Subject two: Bike fit. I think that through trial-and-error I got myself to a position where I feel more-or-less comfortable on the Wattbike as well as the road bike. Some small issues still outstanding though so figured it's about time to get a proper fit and pair it with a saddle fit. One LBS in my area is a Selle Italia idmatch dealer and there's a chap that offers bike fits there. Again, any thoughts on this? Is a bike fit a good investment? Is Selle Italia considered good? I was thinking of getting a cheap/heavy version of whatever they fit me with and bolt that to the Wattbike, test it for a few weeks and if its good - then get the same shape but a bit lighter for the road bike - does that make sense?

1. Latex tubes, I didn't think they were more puncture resistant than butyl tubes, but are a lot more expensive. I pay about £2-£3 for butyl tubes when I buy a bulk load every couple of years.

2. Bikefit. I've never had one but probably worth it if youre having issues. Think about what you want from the bike fit and then look for someone with lots of experience in that area backed up by whatever tech / method they use. It it's not worth going to someone who focuses on racing and TT if you want endurance.

 

[Joffey]

Let me take your minds off cheaters for a minute with a few beginner cyclist questions (once again).

Subject one: Latex tubes. I heard they're a bit more puncture resistant as well as lighter and offer a lower rolling resistance. Sounds like a win on all fronts. Did also read that they might be inappropriate for carbon wheels due to some sort of heat transfer magic. Opinions on this? If they're actually good: Anyone willing to recommend a specific brand?

Subject two: Bike fit. I think that through trial-and-error I got myself to a position where I feel more-or-less comfortable on the Wattbike as well as the road bike. Some small issues still outstanding though so figured it's about time to get a proper fit and pair it with a saddle fit. One LBS in my area is a Selle Italia idmatch dealer and there's a chap that offers bike fits there. Again, any thoughts on this? Is a bike fit a good investment? Is Selle Italia considered good? I was thinking of getting a cheap/heavy version of whatever they fit me with and bolt that to the Wattbike, test it for a few weeks and if its good - then get the same shape but a bit lighter for the road bike - does that make sense?

Latex? Wouldn't bother. Expensive and offer little gains. I thought they were LESS puncture resistant actually! They also leak more than normal tubes so you have to pump up your tyres more.

Bike fit? Unless you are in pain again, I wouldn't bother. Others will have a totally different opinion and really recommend them so it might be just a case of ignoring all advice and make your own mind up.

Sounds like you have really got the cycling bug and are looking for new and exciting ways to reduce your bank balance!