2012 Bradley Wiggins Pinarello Dogma 2

[Boy1608]

Not really.. it could have been sat on a set of rollers throughout the duration of the tour and used for warm ups, it could have even been a training bike used in the tour.
I doubt very much that the bike is the specification of the race bikes Wiggo used in the tour, for example does the bike you have feature osymetric elliptical chain rings and a SRM power meter?

The reality is that unless you can prove that the bike has historical significance, its worth no more than a normal Dogma to anyone other than a Wiggo fanboy.

That's great thanks, still a £4k bike though

 

[Mr Haematocrit]

That's great thanks, still a £4k bike though

Indeed
IMHO that's the way to look at it, you have a bike many people would love to own.
Its probably a blessing that its unlikely that the bike is worth any real money as this would likely prevent you from riding it and enjoying the bike...... A great big smile has a value which is hard to put a price on.

If you want to find out the exact history of the bike Sky can tell from the frame number with incredible details, they log it all.

 

[Pedal Bob]

Not really.. it could have been sat on a set of rollers throughout the duration of the tour and used for warm ups, it could have even been a training bike used in the tour.
I doubt very much that the bike is the specification of the race bikes Wiggo used in the tour, for example does the bike you have feature osymetric elliptical chain rings and a SRM power meter?

The reality is that unless you can prove that the bike has historical significance, its worth no more than a normal Dogma to anyone other than a Wiggo fanboy.

But surely that's the whole point? If a Wiggins 'fanboy' would be prepared to pay more then that makes it more valueable. You will always get collectors who specialise in certain items.

 

[Mr Haematocrit]

But surely that's the whole point? If a Wiggins 'fanboy' would be prepared to pay more then that makes it more valueable. You will always get collectors who specialise in certain items.

Agreed to a certain extent. You will get people who are fan boys who 'will' pay more for something which may have value to them personally. This however does not impact the valuation or worth for insurance purposes which was part of the original question
For example I am a major fan of Cav and have a signed shirt which I paid quite substantial amounts for, it has been valued at substantially less than it cost me.
I also have signed memorabilia from Alexander Vinokourov which equally has been valued as not being worth much, but it has sentimental value to me

 

[Boris Bajic]

There has been a great increase in the value of 'collectibles' over recent years - and an increase in the breadth of what is considered collectible.

We read in the papers about divorcing couples fighting over ownership of high-value collections of stuffed toys.

Items are sold new as 'future collectibles', as though the pleasure of ownership is somehow not unconnected with capital gain.

The OP has won a slightly used bicycle with a tenuous link to a famous rider. It is an odd thing to try to value. Any incremental value over and above its worth as a fine bicycle is dependent in part on its condition and originality. These will only be guaranteed if the bicycle is not used.

If the bicycle is used, then it will lose its 'as new' condition and (as parts are replaced) its originality. So it becomes either a bicycle or a Matisse in a safe deposit box.

If it is used as a bicycle, it will have the same merit and value as one of its kind unblessed by Saint Bilbo Wiggins.

If it is put away and cherished, it will maintain its value as a piece of sporting memorabilia... but.... take a peek at the values of bikes used by Sastre, Pantani et al... they are nothing special and the equipment is (by today's standards) slightly pedestrian. These things move on. Ten years from now, most punters will ask "Bradley who?"

I have no longing to own such a thing, but if I won one I would cherish it and ride it and feel very lucky. The OP is very lucky. it is an excellent thing to own.

But it's really just a bicycle and should be seen as such.

 

[TheSpence]

Wait, slow down.

What competition is this?! Why did I not enter?!

 

[TheJDog]

Agreed to a certain extent. You will get people who are fan boys who 'will' pay more for something which may have value to them personally. This however does not impact the valuation or worth for insurance purposes which was part of the original question
For example I am a major fan of Cav and have a signed shirt which I paid quite substantial amounts for, it has been valued at substantially less than it cost me.
I also have signed memorabilia from Alexander Vinokourov which equally has been valued as not being worth much, but it has sentimental value to me

A tour ridden 2012 Wiggo frame is worth more than a non-tour ridden frame. No valuation in the world would not take that into account.

Cav signed shirts, there are probably plenty of those, and there is a reason your other memorabilia is worthless.

 

[Rob3rt]

A tour ridden 2012 Wiggo frame is worth more than a non-tour ridden frame. No valuation in the world would not take that into account.

Cav signed shirts, there are probably plenty of those, and there is a reason your other memorabilia is worthless.

But how do you quantify it in such a way as to insure it for the "true" value, especially if there is no precedent to "prove" its worth!

 

[Crankarm]

Here Wiggo again.



Any bike that Wiggo actually rode in the Tour or any GC will be set up for Wiggo and quite useless if you are of totally different dimensions like frame size if you want to actually ride it. If the bike you have is not his frame size or set up for him then it is NOT a Wiggo bike.

 

[Boy1608]

I brought a team sky bike a few years ago, cost me 4k and I know someone who owns a 2012 wiggo dogma who paid 3.5k for it.
They can still be brought from Sky as they have been available every year.

http://www.teamsky.com/article/0,27290,24896_8683664,00.html

Sorry to let you know but @400bhp is bang on the money, unless you have the bike he won the tour or olympics on and can prove it then its not worth any real noticable money, there are absolutely loads of wiggo bikes around.

Just to complete this.. those bikes are the same as the ones he used.. but not ones he rode... hence the difference. Agree that perhaps it's more down to the person liking Wiggo and thats more the value.. but those prices on that site are for bikes with no wheels or pedals... so the fact the one in my avatar has prototype C35 wheels and pedals probably adds to that value. Thanks for your advice though.. really appreciate it!

 

[gaz]

What size frame is it?

 

[jowwy]

Theres no blue banding on the forks, seat stays or top tube. You sure its a team sky bike

 

[Mr Haematocrit]

Just to complete this.. those bikes are the same as the ones he used.. but not ones he rode... hence the difference. Agree that perhaps it's more down to the person liking Wiggo and thats more the value.. but those prices on that site are for bikes with no wheels or pedals... so the fact the one in my avatar has prototype C35 wheels and pedals probably adds to that value. Thanks for your advice though.. really appreciate it!

The C35 is not at all a rare wheel and Sky have been selling them along with their bikes to who ever wants to trump up the money.. As you can see from the information shown below, not only are Sky selling the bikes, but they are also selling the Pedals and Wheels to go with them.
The bikes on offer include those of Sir Bradley Wiggins. It's worth noting though that Wiggo never used Shimano pedals and preferred Speedplay Zero's (Does your bike have these?)
As such it could be fair to suggest that you could actually buy a bike Wiggo rode and at the most expensive price it could still end up cheaper than a new Dogma, at the best price you will have substantial savings over a new bike.

Stock:
Approximately 30 bikes from a variety of riders, including Sir Bradley Wiggins and World Champion's models, will be sold on a first come, first serve basis (stock subject to change)
Bikes: £2,750-7500 (excluding wheels and pedals)
Shimano RS80, C35, C50 wheels: £6-750 (note most are tubs)
Shimano Dura-Ace pedals: £70-100

http://www.teamsky.com/article/0,27290,24896_8683664,00.html

 

[Boy1608]

The C35 is not at all a rare wheel and Sky have been selling them along with their bikes to who ever wants to trump up the money.. As you can see from the information shown below, not only are Sky selling the bikes, but they are also selling the Pedals and Wheels to go with them.
The bikes on offer include those of Sir Bradley Wiggins. It's worth noting though that Wiggo never used Shimano pedals and preferred Speedplay Zero's (Does your bike have these?)
As such it could be fair to suggest that you could actually buy a bike Wiggo rode and at the most expensive price it could still end up cheaper than a new Dogma, at the best price you will have substantial savings over a new bike.

Stock:
Approximately 30 bikes from a variety of riders, including Sir Bradley Wiggins and World Champion's models, will be sold on a first come, first serve basis (stock subject to change)
Bikes: £2,750-7500 (excluding wheels and pedals)
Shimano RS80, C35, C50 wheels: £6-750 (note most are tubs)
Shimano Dura-Ace pedals: £70-100

http://www.teamsky.com/article/0,27290,24896_8683664,00.html

Approximately 30 bikes from a variety of riders, including Sir Bradley Wiggins and World Champion's models. Thats a little like Halfords selling the Sir Bradlye Wiggins Model.

Get your point. And thanks.

 

[vickster]

Normally competition specs give some indication of the value of the prize.

If 3K+, you may find you have something rather expensive to insure, depending on how you do it (home insurance usually the cheapest, dpending on where you live but will be a named item)