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Shocking CCTV of a cyclist being pushed
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Just checking to see if anyone was still awake
What has his employment status got to do with the price of bread?
LCpl Boiled Egg
Three word soundbite
What's next? Don't make eye contact with anyone? Don't talk to yourself in case someone thinks you're having a go? Or maybe we should just give up, get in a car and drive everywhere?
Has anyone considered that "the finger" may have been the cyclist putting her hand out to indicate a left turn, and Mr. Shortfuse took it the wrong way? The number of people on here saying "Yeah, it's his fault but she's not exactly blameless" is incredible.
PhilDawson8270
Veteran
Incredible but true.
EDIT - don't think getting in a car and driving everywhere is any better. A tosser is a tosser is a tosser, doesn't matter what mode of transport they use or interact with.
EDIT 2 - I'm not calling the cyclist a tosser in case you're about to get a stick up your bum about that.
Hip Priest
Veteran
People like to throw emotive terms around. She was not to blame for the assault. Nobody is saying she is. But like it or not, the world is full of hair-trigger idiots like this guy and if you go round telling people off you'll eventually find one of them.
Drago
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Because that's the sort of drivel I regularly hear trotted out in Court as mitigation for similar acts.
PhilDawson8270
Veteran
Surely the magistrates must here this multiple times per day. Do they really buy it?
cd365
Guru
- Location
- Coventry, uk
So cyclists should ride around meekly just in case there is an idiot out there?
This "trial by internet" thing I am really starting to like, you do something illegal like assault, drive with undue care & consideration etc. and you should be prepared, in this selfie world now, for someone to be filming. Maybe the more it happens the more people will think twice. The c0ck in this video assaulted a woman and is now receiving threats, poetic justice I think. If someone ran up to him now, pushed him over and shouted "come on then" would he be so brave? Somehow I doubt it!
Drago
Legendary Member
- Location
- Suburban Poshshire
Yes, very often, unfortunately.
Hip Priest
Veteran
It's not about being meek, it's about avoiding getting into confrontations over minor issues. Sometimes it may be appropriate to engage with another road user, but most of the time it's pointless.
cd365
Guru
- Location
- Coventry, uk
Agreed
To me, it sounds like you're saying that people who are unemployed are more likely to commit such violent acts, which of course would be complete nonsense.
Spinney
Bimbleur extraordinaire
- Location
- Back up north
I read it as it says - that he hears that excuse brought out in court as a way of trying to mitigate a sentence. Nothing more or less. He didn't say he thought or implied that. Whether or not the defense lawyers/magistrates believe it is a different matter, but not one that can be addressed here.
Pale Rider
Legendary Member
Mitigation at court is inevitably samey, so you do hear the same phrases over and over again.
I recall a multi-handed case of street violence in which the barristers had a 'cliche sweep' in the robing room beforehand.
Among the phrase in the hat (wig) were:
A moment of madness, he's turned the corner, he is remorseful, his family are standing by him, he is determined to stop taking drugs/come of the drink, he is looking for work, he is volunteering for a charity.
I recall a multi-handed case of street violence in which the barristers had a 'cliche sweep' in the robing room beforehand.
Among the phrase in the hat (wig) were:
A moment of madness, he's turned the corner, he is remorseful, his family are standing by him, he is determined to stop taking drugs/come of the drink, he is looking for work, he is volunteering for a charity.
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