UK SUV Petition

[Hacienda71]

I am not so sure saloons and estates are wider than their SUV comparables as some are claiming.

https://www.carsized.com/en/cars/compare/

I suspect if you want an SUV that handles well you need a wider vehicle as a higher centre of gravity compromises handling. They might try to resolve it via fancy electronics and suspension, but the laws of physics are difficult to break. 🤔

 

[fossyant]

I am not so sure saloons and estates are wider than their SUV comparables as some are claiming.

https://www.carsized.com/en/cars/compare/

I suspect if you want an SUV that handles well you need a wider vehicle as a higher centre of gravity compromises handling. They might try to resolve it via fancy electronics and suspension, but the laws of physics are difficult to break. 🤔

Depends on the model. Many SUVs aren't 'big' as you say.

MrsF's Qashqai replaced my saloon in the Nissan line up. My car is longer and heavier than the Qashqai - both same width though. The Qashqai is a few inches taller, that's it.

If I had the estate, the room inside would be miles more than the Qashqai - just I have a saloon, longer load area, but no height due to a 'boot'.

I'd recon a Pulsar (small/medium hatch) has just as much room as a Qashqai, and is lighter/smaller than the 'SUV'.

Very much depends on the car and it's design. SUV's generally are too big.

 

[Jody]

I am not so sure saloons and estates are wider than their SUV comparables as some are claiming.

Interesting site that!

A full fat Range Rover is only just over 20cm wider than a 308. All other dimensions aren't too comparable

A 3 series tourer is nearly the same length (30cm shorter ) / width (22cm) as a RR

 

[albion]

https://arstechnica.com/cars/2024/0...antly-increase-pedestrian-deaths-study-finds/

Study discovers the obvious.

 

[Gillstay]

Well yes, it would be considered madness nowadays to have cars with so little protection for the occupants.

And yet people are out there on cycles, motorbikes and even horses.

 

[Gillstay]

Cars are 3D. Saloons have larger and larger width and length. SUVs have larger heights. We tested various cars and for similar space for our teenage kids in the back saloons were nearly 1m in length longer than the SUV.

SUVs have smaller footprint for comparable internal space . In terms of road space that’s a good thing.

The lady I bought my Berlingo off used to loan it off her Dad as her range rover was too small when they went on camping holidays.

 

[dicko]

4 people in a classic Mini was lethal

I saw what happened to mine at around 15mph impact speed. It was cut up and thrown in a quarry after that and I vowed never to own another.

Four people was the norm back then we must have driven thousands of miles in minis 60s to 90s they gave reliable service

 

[simongt]

My sister has one 'beause'. 1 kid, and a dog they move occasionally.

A while back, my sister's neighbour changed her old Volvo estate for a hulking great Volvo SUV. when I asked my sister why, she said that maybe her neighbour feels safer in it.

 

[icowden]

And yet people are out there on cycles, motorbikes and even horses.

Cyclists <20mph usually. Helmets advised as are gloves etc
Motorbikes up to 70mph. Helmets compulsory, leathers strongly recommended.
Horses up to 30mph but on roads, much, much slower (<10mph) unless pulling a member of the travelling community. Helmets compulsory for children, highly recommended for adults. Many adults also wear back protectors.

So all modes of transport have their protection based on risk.

 

[matticus]

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Motorbikes up to 70mph. Helmets compulsory, leathers strongly recommended.
<snip...>

So all modes of transport have their protection based on risk.

What vehicle are you using over 70mph in the UK?

 

[icowden]

What vehicle are you using over 70mph in the UK?

the last one was a single seater a private race track. Hence "up to".

 

[Gillstay]

Cyclists <20mph usually. Helmets advised as are gloves etc
Motorbikes up to 70mph. Helmets compulsory, leathers strongly recommended.
Horses up to 30mph but on roads, much, much slower (<10mph) unless pulling a member of the travelling community. Helmets compulsory for children, highly recommended for adults. Many adults also wear back protectors.

So all modes of transport have their protection based on risk.

I may have missed a bit here, but I think as otherwise we would have the rules as in Germany where the most vulnerable get the most protection.

 

[Fab Foodie]

Had a little chuckle this morning in Heathrow business parking watching Mr. Fourbyfour try his vehicle in several parking spaces that he couldn't use because of all the other bloated vehicles...for all I know he may still be going round.
I slotted the C1 in the first spot he failed and hopped on the shuttle-bus....

 

[roubaixtuesday]

And there was I, thinking that car parks were making their spaces smaller.

You are Mr Twit and I claim my £5

 

[Rusty Nails]

Winking emojis are over-used imo.