1.0 litre 3 pot turbo engines

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Pale Rider

Legendary Member
The Ford 1.0 engine does appear to have significant reliability problems.

A dealer told me Ford has given up contesting warranty claims, so it must serious.

Another problem is the engine is difficult to rebuild in a workshop due to the very fine tolerances involved.

The usual answer is to take it out and whack in a new one.

The dealer also told me they had an out of warranty claim for a blown Ecoboost engine which Ford paid a £1,400 contribution to the cost of the replacement.

Ford stuff is usually well engineered, so I think there's every chance they will have sorted the problems by now.

I would risk a new one, but not second hand.
 

Mr Celine

Discordian
We hired this on holiday in Portugal last year

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After driving it for a few days I looked under the bonnet and was astonished to find a small engine with only 3 cylinders.

Very different from the only 3 cylinder car I've ever owned, which was 300cc larger but with 35 fewer horses.
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The 3 cylinder imbalance was only noticeable when idling, it had a very distinct shoogle.
 

keithmac

Guru
My son was working on a Polo GTi with 400 bhp this week. Bonkers.

His boss has a GTR which is tuned to 800bhp, but keeps having faults with his gearbox - apparently the engines can be tuned to crazy levels, but the gearboxes give out. Some bearing or other.

My mate had a 650 HP GTR and that was an amazing car, just absolutely planted on the road.

To do the gearbox right you could easily sink £20,000 into it with billet shift forks, Dodson clutch packs etc.

1000bhp is a "mild" upgrade now, some are pushing north of 2000hp.

I've had the pleasure to drive one and the whole package is just spot on imho.
 

fossyant

Ride It Like You Stole It!
Location
South Manchester
My mate had a 650 HP GTR and that was an amazing car, just absolutely planted on the road.

To do the gearbox right you could easily sink £20,000 into it with billet shift forks, Dodson clutch packs etc.

1000bhp is a "mild" upgrade now, some are pushing north of 2000hp.

I've had the pleasure to drive one and the whole package is just spot on imho.

I drove one on the track in October - fantastic car you could be a right hoolgan with - incredibly quick and 'forgiving' with all the computer trickery.
 

keithmac

Guru
The Ford 1.0 engine does appear to have significant reliability problems.

A dealer told me Ford has given up contesting warranty claims, so it must serious.

Another problem is the engine is difficult to rebuild in a workshop due to the very fine tolerances involved.

The usual answer is to take it out and whack in a new one.

The dealer also told me they had an out of warranty claim for a blown Ecoboost engine which Ford paid a £1,400 contribution to the cost of the replacement.

Ford stuff is usually well engineered, so I think there's every chance they will have sorted the problems by now.

I would risk a new one, but not second hand.

You cannot take the main bearing ladder off apparently, factory fit once item as far as Ford are concerned so no chance of rebuilding one.
 

rogerzilla

Legendary Member
My mate had a 650 HP GTR and that was an amazing car, just absolutely planted on the road.

To do the gearbox right you could easily sink £20,000 into it with billet shift forks, Dodson clutch packs etc.

1000bhp is a "mild" upgrade now, some are pushing north of 2000hp.

I've had the pleasure to drive one and the whole package is just spot on imho.
A guy at work had a 1000bhp Skyline: he had it tuned by a specialist in Blackpool, apparently. Tuning turbo engines largely consists of opening the wastegate later so you can get ridiculous power gains, but you usually need bigger injectors and a re-map, and probably an upgraded clutch.

It's still a lot easier to double the power of a turbo engine than to get a lot of power from a NA engine, which is real black magic.
 

keithmac

Guru
My GTO has a pair of one off turbos fitted and 550bhp which is more than enough for me. I built it and mapped it.

Some 1l Superbikes are north of 200hp now which for a production na engine is amazing really!.
 

rogerzilla

Legendary Member
The benchmark was to get 100 bhp/litre from a NA car engine before variable valve timing. Porting, bigger valves and extractor design did some of it but you usually ended up with camshafts that gave considerable (fixed) overlap and meant the engine needed a rather MOT-unfriendly high idle speed.

Motorbike engines are slightly easier because the smaller components mean you can use around twice the rpm.
 
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