6p off diesel and petrol for next 3 months.....

[The Jogger]

Well the jobcentre seems to have jobs. Monster appears full of jobs as does job site. Now whether or not they are jobs you want is again down to choice.

The western world is full of choice.

EDIT: A very quick and dirty search (using Lancashire as a location because I felt if I used London people would accuse me of picking the easy option) revealed 585 jobs in my field of expertise. Whether or not I would want to do them is, you guessed it, down to choice.

It's a bit of a meaningless figure when you don't put in the other half of the equation as in how many people are chasing those 585 jobs............

 

[Linford]

What are you babbling about, you muppet? I didn't suggest anywhere that you were not similarly irritating, disingenuous, evasive and misinformed in your dealings with members other than me, although there's a matter of degree involved.

You obviously missed my recent discussion with Cunobelin over the H4H then. Whilst we certainly didn't see eye to eye, I do respect that his dogma is such that he didn't waiver from the debate to make personal digs - which you have no qualms about doing, and we had no reason to go there - but it was a full blown ding dong with no mistake. Can you not remember the epic threads I debated with MrP also. You flatter yourself if you think I'm at all fixated with you in any other way that we have diametrically opposing opinions on most things, and so clash on most issues.

In fact, and to return to it, why you ever felt the need to think you are being stalked. We have both divulged enough personal info over the years for others to identify ourselves fairly easily, and that is clearly not actually happening from the stick poking thing which we have done to each other here over the years as it goes on here, and here alone - I've got a few members and a mod from here on my FB list FFS.

I find the feminist thing fairly amusing, because equality is demanded, and then when given, is rejected when it suits, so I just see it as a mechanism of manipulation to exercise on us dumb blokes - why and how do I work this out - because I share a house with some fairly forthright feminists who do exactly this when it suits them. Your methods differ, but the pattern is ultimately just the same - at least they are honest about it.....

 

[martint235]

It's a bit of a meaningless figure when you don't put in the other half of the equation as in how many people are chasing those 585 jobs............

There's unfortunately no way to tell unless I enter the recruitment process which I'd say is a bit unfair, going for a job I don't want. Even so that's just a snapshot as of this evening, suppose another 585 jobs come onto the market tomorrow.

 

[The Jogger]

There's unfortunately no way to tell unless I enter the recruitment process which I'd say is a bit unfair, going for a job I don't want. Even so that's just a snapshot as of this evening, suppose another 585 jobs come onto the market tomorrow.

And if your granny had balls she would be your granda, sorry Martin, still a load of meaningless, worthless statistics.

 

[martint235]

And if your granny had balls she would be your granda, sorry Martin, still a load of meaningless, worthless statistics.

So is speculating about how many other people are going for the job? I just answered a question about whether or not there are jobs to choose from. A 5 min search showed yes.

 

[Smurfy]

There's unfortunately no way to tell unless I enter the recruitment process which I'd say is a bit unfair, going for a job I don't want. Even so that's just a snapshot as of this evening, suppose another 585 jobs come onto the market tomorrow.

Every graduate post 'receives 52 applications'

23 applicants for every job vacancy... and there are 46 for each customer service role

The average number of applicants for every job increases from 15 to 20 over the past year, rising to over 50 for some vacancies, new research reveals.

UK unemployment: are there enough jobs to go round?

Graduate gloom as 83 students apply for every vacancy

 

[Smurfy]

So is speculating about how many other people are going for the job? I just answered a question about whether or not there are jobs to choose from. A 5 min search showed yes.

No speculation required. I know what the answer is.

 

[Wobblers]

I was being sarcastic when I said people can choose not to live next to a busy road or motorway, but only because there's a bunch of misguided idiots on this thread who insist there's always a good choice, while ignoring the fact you'd have to bankrupt yourself, or put yourselves and others through hell to exercise that choice

It's funny, but I doubt those who have little choice about living next to a busy road or motorway would be quite so sanguine about having to cope with the pollution, noise and general unpleasantness with those, ahem, can we say "misguided idiots", who can't be arsed to find out if there's another choice.

Or is it the case that you don't actually have to pay that price (instead burdening someone else with it with your "mostly motorway driving") hence you don't deem it worth bothering about?

 

[Wobblers]

I can probably scrounge my mates cannondale full sus downhill bike, but whether I've got the bottle to use it properly in anger is questionable as some of the 'drops' there are just that . Let me know by PM if you really are up for this as it is a good local course.

I prefer rides out on a roadie, but not the greatest fan of club rides. I rode out with the Chelt CTC once, but felt that ego's were being hung out by the regulars and a lot of bravado and showing off was displayed. I don't feel that ego's have any place on public roads .

???!!

This is a CTC ride you're talking about??

 

[Wobblers]

No speculation required. I know what the answer is.

So don't keep it to yourself, it's ... what?

The job market is rather more than secretarial positions or Wales and Scotland.

Edit: I'd agree with you here, the job market is less than good - but people with skills still have more opportunities than is frequently painted.

 

[Smurfy]

It's funny, but I doubt those who have little choice about living next to a busy road or motorway would be quite so sanguine about having to cope with the pollution, noise and general unpleasantness with those, ahem, can we say "misguided idiots", who can't be arsed to find out if there's another choice.

Or is it the case that you don't actually have to pay that price (instead burdening someone else with it with your "mostly motorway driving") hence you don't deem it worth bothering about?

I can't understand why you're directing such a comment at me:
1. You should look to other posters on this thread if you want to find people who claim everyone has a choice about everything, because I certainly don't fit that description.
2. I lived little more than a stones throw from one of the busiest motorway intersections in the UK for over four years, and had absolutely no complaints about noise, pollution or anything else.

And as for your other post, what do you want me to do? Explain to you how to click on hypertext?

 

[Smurfy]

Here's the source data from the Guardian article I linked to above.

Many of the applicant to vacancy ratios are in double figures. I wouldn't call that 'choice', in terms of what job you do, and where you work!

Anyone who has a permanent job that they're happy with doesn't know how lucky they are.

Edit: That should read claimant to vacancy ratio. But actually that just makes it even worse, because many people looking for work aren't able to claim (e.g. if their partner is earning money).

 

[Linford]

???!!

This is a CTC ride you're talking about??

Yes

 

[stowie]

It is true that fuel price increases will affect some people who have little short-term option but to use a car. I think the numbers of people in this situation are vastly dwarfed by the numbers of people who choose to use a car above other viable means of transport. I also think that many of the transport "deprived" would never be able to afford the cost of a car less still run it - get on a 48 or 55 bus from my area first thing in the morning and you will see the workers for whom even the underground is too expensive and a lengthy bus journey is the only "choice".

There is something bigger than simple individual cases here though. For many years our workplaces, living environments and shopping has been driven by car usage. Is it any wonder public transport seems inadequate when we are trying to fit it into an environment built around private car use, instead of one that plays to the strengths of public transport, walking and cycling? For instance my work takes me to many client offices around the UK. Many of these are in serviced builds miles from a public transport hub, where presumably some cheap land has been converted to commercial use. They suit the car because land for parking is cheap and they are often near trunk roads away from congested towns. Shopping centres have been built in the same way. Housing estates have been thrown up in locations with no local shops or amenities. All because it is cheaper to simply build in these locations and rely on car use to make them accessible. We need to change this back to more centralised hubs where land use is mixed and public transport links are more available so that reliance on the car - which is clearly not a scalable transport model, less still a sustainable one - is reduced. Even now, fuel prices are cheap enough for development based solely upon car use to be the easy option.

 

[Fab Foodie]

Good post Stowie.