For a minute I mistook him for John Hopoate
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I remember Hape playing for the Bradford Bulls
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A blow for Rugby Union....
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The digit inserter I remember Hape playing for the Bradford Bulls
But again he freely admits players cheated the tests and made false claims to doctors in order to play so they must accept some responsibility. Again it comes back to the desire to play and mentality of a pro. Look at the Grand Final in RL the other week. Two big head collisions McCarthy Scarsbrook was out cold and been held up by team mates but somehow passed his head assessment. No way was he missing a Grand Final. James Graham looked a nothing knock but he failed his. I’m sure both know the dangers and risks in later life but they see the world differently. To come back years later and blame the club etc is not on really
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I would have thought the question is whether they did what could reasonably be considered enough.
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Perhaps the RFU may have to implement rule changes to negate the effects of head collisions, but I can’t see how anybody in either code can prevent accidental head collisions due to getting a tackle wrong, or banging into a knee or hip when being tackled/tackling the two incidents that Tripster mentions weren’t deliberate assaults but accidents, in contact sports it happens, the players know this , and still go out and play every week, the players are so much fitter now, the forwards in RL defy logic, big strong muscley athletes that run like a scalded cat when they get the ball and a sniff of a gap, the impacts are scary when spectating, particularly in the empty stadiums of late, you hear everything , where, in my opinion in RL it falls down is certain referees who seem to let some teams get away with high tackle after high tackle, then wonder why a punch up kicks off, the authorities should start with the ref’s to clamp down on illegal tackles consistently and fairly
matticus
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Indeedy.
Interesting article, that . One section I think is relevant to the debate WE are having here:
Players of that generation are just not aware of the long-term effects of head impacts. Even reading about them now, their up-bringing will override their self-preservation; they do not simply "know what they are getting into".
Yes that’s so true, they really have no idea what they are getting themselves into
matticus
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What an appropriate emoji for discussing punch-drunk athletes!Yes that’s so true, they really have no idea what they are getting themselves into
matticus
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Have you really not learned anything about this subject since you were a rough tough northern schoolboy? You're really something else ...Punch drunk is boxers, not Rugby Players
Well judging by the quantity of factual evidence I provided and you answering zero questions from then on, after you called me out saying my opinions where bollocks I would say I have learned a damn sight more than an arm chair supporter. oh just to help you out, only 10-20% of boxers ever get symptoms after they retire. If it was as big a problem from player ignorance as you say then nursing homes would be rammed to bursting point with ex players suffering....but it’s not. You really have no knowledge of this sport do you?
matticus
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Would you listen to a doctor who had never played the game if he told you to stop/reduce your risky activity?
( I'm getting quite turned on by all the testosterone flying round this thread, from you manly rugger-bu99er types, especially when you put the rest of us in our place x :-) )
matticus
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Oh dear, you are making a fool of yourself. Please refer back to previous posts that show the player in question having A specialist consultation and been told his career is over. He then gets a second opinion and returns to the sport, risking serious injury if not paralysis...... did he listen to a doctor who had never played ? Nope but thankfully he did the third time when he had little choice. The point I keep making and keep factually proving is they think differently and no amount of medical evidence will change the majority of them and how they approach the game they love.
What has this got to do with tough rugger players ? Nothing, I assume you just had nothing left to say a bit like yesterday.
Like a boxer, take the 10 count...stay down... you are out ....
Punch drunk is a term derived from boxing and is used to explain the often disorientated behaviour of a person who has taken repeated blows suffering concussion.
Rugby players are speaking of knocks to the head and blows that they get during a game and have little knowledge of. The cumulative effect supposedly causing later life dementia. If the players where concussed, wobbly, stumbling punch drunk they you would end up with 30 players laying out on a pitch ever game the amount of unforeseen knocks they take.
Therefore Punch drunk is not a term WIDELY used to refer to a Rugby Player. More a concussed boxer.
Again, take the 10 count and stay down
matticus
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You only had to google "Punch drunk dementia*" to be more informed. First hit:
" Neurodegeneration and degenerative disease.
Chronic traumatic encephalopathy (CTE), formerly known as dementia pugilistica or 'punch drunk syndrome', is described as a progressive neurodegenerative disease in people with a history of repetitive mild traumatic brain injury
"
You see how easily "armchair supporters" can inform themselves? Gosh, this is fun, isn't it, no doubt the world is following this erudite discussion ...
*if you just google punch drunk you get a theatre company!
" Neurodegeneration and degenerative disease.
Chronic traumatic encephalopathy (CTE), formerly known as dementia pugilistica or 'punch drunk syndrome', is described as a progressive neurodegenerative disease in people with a history of repetitive mild traumatic brain injury
"
You see how easily "armchair supporters" can inform themselves? Gosh, this is fun, isn't it, no doubt the world is following this erudite discussion ...
*if you just google punch drunk you get a theatre company!
