A good day for the Neurodiverse...especially women....

[Fab Foodie]

Hurrah!

Hopefully where these lead, others will follow. My own experience at BigCo, is that they are finally getting a handle on this and creating environments for us to thrive.
What we need is better capture of the Neurodiverse during education.

Every journey starts with a first step....

https://www.theguardian.com/society...women-sought-for-jobs-at-gchq-and-bae-systems

 

[Petrichorwheels]

why particularly neurodiverse WOMEN?
I thought it had long been recognised in any case that folk on the autism spectrum etc can have a particular aptitude for certain types of techie disciplines.
and would have thought that certain organisations have long recognised and tapped into this.
Is this news or just PR from bodies trying to seem "on message"?

 

[Jody]

why particularly neurodiverse WOMEN?

Maybe some ND women have a slightly different mental skillset to ND men.

Women with ADHD don't present in the same way as a male would and are less likely to be diagnosed because of that.

 

[Fab Foodie]

why particularly neurodiverse WOMEN?
I thought it had long been recognised in any case that folk on the autism spectrum etc can have a particular aptitude for certain types of techie disciplines.
and would have thought that certain organisations have long recognised and tapped into this.
Is this news or just PR from bodies trying to seem "on message"?

Nope, I think it's documented that neurodiversity differs between the sexes. Women may show stronger attributes in certain areas, however, neurodiversity is less recognised/diagnosed in Women compared to men, this is changing....

 

[Fab Foodie]

Maybe some ND women have a slightly different mental skillset to ND men.

Women with ADHD don't present in the same way as a male would and are less likely to be diagnosed because of that.

Correct.

 

[Petrichorwheels]

, however, neurodiversity is less recognised/diagnosed in Women compared to men, this is changing....

interesting - not criticising your take - just asking - why do folks/you think this is?

 

[Fab Foodie]

interesting - not criticising your take - just asking - why do folks/you think this is?

That's a good question to which the answer I think is still being worked-on....
There is an assumption that our brains are wired the same and that our hormones perform similarly, that's clearly not true. But symptoms will differ and presentations vary.

 

[fossyant]

We had a presentation about neurodiverse people at a recent 'away day'. Funny thing that came out of it is that we should accept people as they are, and that was the genuine response from colleagues, until you realise the same colleagues really don't like cyclists and make it clear to you. Funny isn't it.

 

[Jody]

Correct.

I have no issue with a specific call for women as I feel acceptable reasons were given.

 

[Petrichorwheels]

We had a presentation about neurodiverse people at a recent 'away day'. Funny thing that came out of it is that we should accept people as they are, and that was the genuine response from colleagues, until you realise the same colleagues really don't like cyclists and make it clear to you. Funny isn't it.

the illiberal liberal syndrome I fear.

 

[Fab Foodie]

We had a presentation about neurodiverse people at a recent 'away day'. Funny thing that came out of it is that we should accept people as they are, and that was the genuine response from colleagues, until you realise the same colleagues really don't like cyclists and make it clear to you. Funny isn't it.

The difference is that neurodiversity is something (unlike opinions) people can't change readily and it does have very significant impacts on behaviours....

 

[Jameshow]

I doubt there are as many nuero diverse women either. Perhaps 20% max.

Also the male intelliegence has a great spread compared to women, so many more highly intelligent men but more lower intelligence men too.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variability_hypothesis

 

[Arrowfoot]

Not sure where the information void is but intelligence services around the World have a long history of recruiting people of both gender who are on the spectrum. It was known phenomenon during WWII and has carried on. They have the innate ability to see and pick things that the rest of us can't.

I suspect that autism etc was never mentioned maybe because it was impolite but recruiters know who to look for. One favourite catchment pool is chess clubs.

It's the same in the private sector. Here is private company and note its name and 100% of its staff are on the spectrum. And gender plays no part.

https://auticon.com.au/projects-services/cybersecurity/

 

[Fab Foodie]

Not sure where the information void is but intelligence services around the World have a long history of recruiting people of both gender who are on the spectrum. It was known phenomenon during WWII and has carried on. They have the innate ability to see and pick things that the rest of us can't.

I suspect that autism etc was never mentioned maybe because it was impolite but recruiters know who to look for. One favourite catchment pool is chess clubs.

It's the same in the private sector. Here is private company and note its name and 100% of its staff are on the spectrum. And gender plays no part.

https://auticon.com.au/projects-services/cybersecurity/

I would agree.
I think the difference here is that neurodiversity is being celebrated as a positive attribute, not that the rules of the game have changed per se. As if the meaning of the word 'special' has changed....

 

[tom73]

The difference is that neurodiversity is something (unlike opinions) people can't change readily and it does have very significant impacts on behaviours....

Not fully understood or welcomed at times I’ve found I mean it’s not my fault I think differently.
Funny how when my idea fixed a problem helping them look good one looked to mind.