A lesson from a coach driver...

[Rohloff_Brompton_Rider]

i have watched it again, i just don't get it. it just doesn't seem that close to me, perhaps traffic round my way passes closer than normal and i am just used to it. it seems from the video clip that to pass as you would have liked, he would have had to wait for approx 1 mile, even then the oncoming bus would have stopped it. as to blocking you a second time, i really can't see that either and the other cyclist has no problems with it. and i still don't see why you could not be on the inside of the white cycle lane dividing line. again i'm not being argumental but i really don't see any issues.

 

[magnatom]

Filtering isn't illegal. I possibly wouldn't have overtaken the Corsa at 2.20....just waited behind till past the coach. Not a major thing though

As for Mags being too close...there's a difference between a cyclist overtaking a (more or less) stationary car at 1 foot away, than a MASSIVE coach overtaking at a few feet at a reasonable speed.

@Mags: If the cycle path was clean, would you use it for the most part (other than maybe at the odd pinch point?). If so maybe try and get the council to clean it? Wouldn't take much to run a road sweep vehicle down it...

Actually there are a few sections that I do use but not many. I'll explain more when I get around to doing a video on the lane. Certain sections of it are really badly designed.

 

[BentMikey]

Bruce is not very good on the highway code, as it does actually mention filtering.

 

[thomas]

Believe, the arse end of the coach is very close to the OP.

Yeah, it looked like he had to slow for the corner too and when turning it did come quite close.

 

[Bruce]

Bruce is not very good on the highway code, as it does actually mention filtering.

Have another wild uneducated guess. I wont say what my pre requisites and qualification for knowing that undertaking is incorrect are, however you carrying on kidding yourself BentBoy

 

[magnatom]

Have another wild uneducated guess. I wont say what my pre requisites and qualification for knowing that undertaking is incorrect are, however you carrying on kidding yourself BentBoy

Ah, but you seem to have a problem telling the difference between undertaking and filtering....

 

[BentMikey]

Since you are so good at the highway code - show us where it says that it is illegal to filter on two-wheelers. While you're at it you can also quote the rules where filtering is mentioned.

 

[4F]

quote the rules where filtering is mentioned.

I can
88

Manoeuvring. You should be aware of what is behind and to the sides before manoeuvring. Look behind you; use mirrors if they are fitted. When in traffic queues look out for pedestrians crossing between vehicles and vehicles emerging from junctions or changing lanes. Position yourself so that drivers in front can see you in their mirrors. Additionally, when filtering in slow-moving traffic, take care and keep your speed low.

 

[potsy]

I can
88

Manoeuvring. You should be aware of what is behind and to the sides before manoeuvring. Look behind you; use mirrors if they are fitted. When in traffic queues look out for pedestrians crossing between vehicles and vehicles emerging from junctions or changing lanes. Position yourself so that drivers in front can see you in their mirrors. Additionally, when filtering in slow-moving traffic, take care and keep your speed low.

That section of the HC was obviously missing from Bruce's copy

 

[Landslide]

For 4F:

 

[Rohloff_Brompton_Rider]

67

You should

• look all around before moving away from the kerb, turning or manoeuvring, to make sure it is safe to do so. Give a clear signal to show other road users what you intend to do (see 'Signals to other road users')
• look well ahead for obstructions in the road, such as drains, pot-holes and parked vehicles so that you do not have to swerve suddenly to avoid them. Leave plenty of room when passing parked vehicles and watch out for doors being opened or pedestrians stepping into your path
• be aware of traffic coming up behind you
• take extra care near road humps, narrowings and other traffic calming features
• take care when overtaking (see Rules 162-169)

also relevant in the op situation

 

[Rohloff_Brompton_Rider]

the highway code is on line at the direct.gov.uk website, just in case no one knew

 

[Crackle]

Can we just have a condensed video of all you swearing and cussing please, that's my favourite part.

I think you got caught in no man's land there Maggers. When he opened the door you should have calmly asked him in response to his cycle lane observation, "Do you know why I'm not in the cycle lane?". Maybe your explanation might have filtered in later.

 

[Cab]

Seems to me that whether Mag should be outside of the cycle lane or not (and it is fair to be there), it isn't reasonable to overtake too closely. And that overtake was too close.

If the large vehicle can't pass without passing closely, then it can't pass. Surely its that simple?

 

[addictfreak]

As we are quoting from the HC, this is one the coach driver should read:

61

Cycle Routes and Other Facilities. Use cycle routes, advanced stop lines, cycle boxes and toucan crossings unless at the time it is unsafe to do so. Use of these facilities is not compulsory and will depend on your experience and skills, but they can make your journey safer.