A warning to those that use cameras

[Slim]

Doesnt Gaz ride naked from the waist down? Whilst singing Jeruselum?

That explains why the Croydon flyover has been closed this morning. Someone spotted him on the way to work and had a heart attack.

 

[Vikeonabike]

OK, I had a look at the Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994, and the only relevant section I could find was 154: Offence of causing intentional harassment, alarm or distress. Alarm bells immediately sound, as your expletives were not intended to cause harassment, alarm, or distress, but read on:



My bold.
They are taking the piss.

I would imagine that in any case unless a complaint is made by a passer by at the time, there would be no case to answer, and it really does hinge on intent.

However, I am not a lawyer &c.

Unfortunately thats Section 4A, which has to be intentional. Section 5 on the other hand doesn't require any intention. Somebody within earshot just has to be alarmed, Harrassed or Distressed.

 

[ComedyPilot]

Bullsh*t. [edit: not in reply to Vike, but at the SRL in the OP in general]

Have the SRL never heard of the concept of 'context'?

A cyclist almost gets mown down by a pathetic excuse for a vehicle operator, and the cyclist (in the heat of the moment) spurts a few choice expletives.........

Go for it, and let's see who looks the tosser in court, cos I swear at cars a LOT - because they ENDANGER MY LIFE with their sh*t driving.

Prior to the incidents I am calm and enjoying the ride, muppet tries to run me down, so I swear as a reaction.

 

[400bhp]

I agree, it's BS.

Think about how many times you lip read footballers' swearing.

But, as intimated earlier, I think they [SRL] have an agenda.

 

[BGRT]

Judging by this thread, swearing should be the least of their worries.

 

[classic33]

Recently been informed by two members of West Yorkshire Police that any evidence gained/gathered by use of such cameras cannot be used as evidence.
Reason they gave was that the pictures are not clear enough for identification purposes.

 

[BentMikey]

Recently been informed by two members of West Yorkshire Police that any evidence gained/gathered by use of such cameras cannot be used as evidence.
Reason they gave was that the pictures are not clear enough for identification purposes.

Is a boll0cks opinion, since it already has been used as evidence.

 

[400bhp]

Recently been informed by two members of West Yorkshire Police that any evidence gained/gathered by use of such cameras cannot be used as evidence.
Reason they gave was that the pictures are not clear enough for identification purposes.

They have an IQ < 100.

 

[gaz]

Recently been informed by two members of West Yorkshire Police that any evidence gained/gathered by use of such cameras cannot be used as evidence.
Reason they gave was that the pictures are not clear enough for identification purposes.

that might be true of some of the really dodgy chinese cameras that are badly mounted and the image is unclear. But looking at even the muvi type of cameras the quality is certainly good enough for use in court.
And some of us are using HD cameras where the quality is second to none.

 

[BentMikey]

Of course there are warnings to camera users and Roadsafe reporters that drivers can want some comeback on you:


View: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtNLbtUxTy0

you sad ****er , next time i will run you over . get a ****ing life , if not a car . i will be keeping an eye out for you around bigginhill , you and i are going to have WORDS (dickhead) .

nedmobile

Threatening to run me and my two year old over? Nice.

 

[rusky]

Can't wait to see the police response to his comment! What a numpty!

 

[BSRU]

Of course there are warnings to camera users and Roadsafe reporters that drivers can want some comeback on you:

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=UtNLbtUxTy0



Threatening to run me and my two year old over? Nice.

I was wondering, with such a direct threat, would the Police do anything about it, if you were a celebrity they would.

I have noticed comments are disabled on his channel.

 

[gaz]

By the way, i should add that i have spoken to an officer at RSL about this. And he has assured me that the driving will be considered before they issue a warning or forward the video to the CPS.

For example, if someone overtakes you just before a set of lights and brakes, there isn't much need to shout and swear at them. Just stay behind them and get on with it and make a fool of them on the internet.
But if someone literally nearly knocks you of the road and nearly kills you, then a few words here and there as a first reaction are fine but if we start to swear and shout at them after that it's too much.

I'm perfectly happy about that, it's not often i swear at drivers and it will only be a few situations where i might need to watch my tongue.

 

[classic33]

that might be true of some of the really dodgy chinese cameras that are badly mounted and the image is unclear. But looking at even the muvi type of cameras the quality is certainly good enough for use in court.
And some of us are using HD cameras where the quality is second to none.

One of the current cameras is the same as that in use with West Yorkshire Police. So i'm alittle puzzled as to how they'd go with camera evidence.

 

[MrHappyCyclist]

Recently been informed by two members of West Yorkshire Police that any evidence gained/gathered by use of such cameras cannot be used as evidence.
Reason they gave was that the pictures are not clear enough for identification purposes.

It is disappointing that police officers are making such ill-informed statements. As has already been said, such evidence has already been used in court. In most cases, the video footage is used to support other evidence such as eye-witness testimony.

It is also important to distinguish between criminal and civil proceedings. Criminal proceedings require proof beyiond reasonable doubt, which is difficult. In civil proceedings, especially in relation to RTIs, video can be useful to counter untruthful statements by the other party, or faulty testimony from eye-witnesses (which is notoriously unreliable, especially regarding timings and sequences of events).