A welcome approach by WMP to cycle safety

Discussion in 'Advocacy and Cycling Safety' started by glasgowcyclist, 9 Sep 2016.

  1. Milkfloat

    Milkfloat Veteran

    When I read your post I thought you must be over-egging it. Then I clicked the link and read The Police Officers statement Which basically reads as ‘get cyclist’s off the road because they slow motorists down in heavily congested areas’. The farkwittery of people in public office is astounding.
    Last edited: 7 Oct 2017
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  2. slowfen

    slowfen Über Member

    Somewhere else taking a more enlightened attitude (Not Cambridgeshire)
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  3. mjr

    mjr Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next

  4. toffee

    toffee Über Member

    Seems a big about turn on their part.
  5. mjr

    mjr Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next

  6. Randombiker9

    Randombiker9 Well-Known Member

    What are yellow star jackets? Also i have not seen any police cars recently in my area of the Thames Valley. All i've seen police related are the cycling PCSO's telling cyclists off for using the pavement.
    Was in town today and there was a police car in the middle of a road that's closed (probs stopping cyclists from going down there. But i've not seen any close passes and police doing anything recently.
  7. dave r

    dave r The Little Diesel

    Holbrooks Coventry
    I remember several people being prosecuted a few years ago for taking the test for someone else
  8. mjr

    mjr Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next

    A derogatory name for hi viz cycling wear. There's pretty much no sound evidence it helps improve safety significantly (research suggests it's contrast that matters, so yellow would be a very silly choice out here among daffodils, tulips, rapeseed, sunflowers, corn and wheat) but it means cyclists can be identified easily even after parking up. Making outgroups wear specific markers is a key part of "othering" or making them a clear subculture that it's OK to criticise. It seems very dodgy to me, sociologically, and because there's no safety benefit, it has no place in evidence-led policing like operation close pass is meant to be.
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  9. Is that a holocaust reference? If so, it's in the most appalling taste.

    Edit: I obviously hadn't refreshed the page, so missed this
    It is a holocaust reference.

    I cannot find words (that won't get me banned from this site) to express my reaction to this.
    Last edited: 30 Mar 2018
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  10. Jenkins

    Jenkins Guru

    I don't see anything in that article about hi-viz cycling wear - only the legally required lights. And in answer to your later post - I will agree about contrast being important making darker clothing on bright days a better choice.
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  11. winjim

    winjim A youth of interminable age

    I would be very very wary of using a term like that. There is no equivalence.
  12. Rickshaw Phil

    Rickshaw Phil Overconfidentii Vulgaris Moderator

    Mod note:

    @mjr; it seems fairly clear that you do mean the term in the way that @jefmcg suggests. This is in very poor taste and goes against the spirit of the forum rules and guidelines

    A search shows me that you are the only person who has used this term on the site. Please do not use it again.
  13. Randombiker9

    Randombiker9 Well-Known Member

    Ok. . I always have a hi viz/relfective gloves and helmet cover on but i only wear my hi-viz/reflective vest if it's dawn dusk or dark. But lights are personally more important i think.
    Last edited: 30 Mar 2018
  14. No. Not "exactly". MJR is saying that cops suggesting Hi-viz is the same as Nazis/Occupying forces making Jews wear the star of david. Do not agree with him, unless you think that is true - unless you believe being carted off to a death camp is in your immediate future.

    Also Godwin's Law.
  15. Randombiker9

    Randombiker9 Well-Known Member

    I wasn't agreeing or dissagreeing.
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