Advice needed on my first e-bike

[albion]

Both have their uses. Cheaper systems cut off at different speeds yet an 8mph cut-off can give higher mileage, be it at a slow pace.
I do not mind either.

 

[Mike Ayling]

My current manual bike is belt drive; I've had it two years without a problem and I vastly prefer it.

Pedant warning!

Latin root of manual is hand, what you have is a pedal bike.

 

[This Wreckage]

My mid drive is 24.8kg stock so 29kg seems a lot! Even with a 800wh battery I can't imagine anything but cargo bikes weighing that much.

Cube Supreme Hybrid Deluxe One 600Wh is 28kg. The British-made Mako Shark Mid Motor Step-Through 540Wh is 29.7kg. Gazelle Grenoble C5 600 Wh is 27kg exc. the battery.

 

[This Wreckage]

Pedant warning!

Latin root of manual is hand, what you have is a pedal bike.

Electric bikes also have pedals. Perhaps biobike is an apt neologism.

 

[This Wreckage]

That weight is probably a bit high, but not far off maybe 25kg. Unless you're lifting the bike completely off the ground(both wheels together) the weight will be greatly reduced hanging from a hook for instance

To hang a bike in the storage cubicle in UK mainline trains does demand lifting the bike completely off the floor. It's a really awkward space, almost impossible to use when there is another bike in it. See the photo in my first post.

 

[Dadam]

Where will you keep it? If it is an unheated out building then you really need one which you can easilly remove the battery
Really low temperatures at night will affect the battery meaning it maybe sometime well into the following day before you get a correct inducation of the battery level.

That’s temporary though. As long as you don’t charge it under 0C it‘s not much of an issue.

The lighter ebikes tend not to have removable batteries because those batteries need extra casing material and connectors. The down tubes have to be thicker walled and wider (hence heavier) for the frame to be rigid enough with the big hole in them for the battery.

 

[Dogtrousers]

Electric bikes also have pedals. Perhaps biobike is an apt neologism.

I like "push bike".

 

[Mike_P]

That’s temporary though. As long as you don’t charge it under 0C it‘s not much of an issue.

Given most my ebike routes are immediately a vertical U shape having a reading of none to little battery on a cold morning is not something I want to see

 

[kingrollo]

Have a look at decathlon e road bikes - thesei are pretty similar - but cheaper than the offerings from Ribble.

At 14kg my decathlon is quite weighty - but you would have to pay a lot more to get something much lighter. It comes with the Mahle X35 motor - which is aging but proven tech.

Avoid any unknown brands as others have said.

 

[Dadam]

Given most my ebike routes are immediately a vertical U shape having a reading of none to little battery on a cold morning is not something I want to see

It might read a few % low in the cold but if it's reading little to none when there's actually a fair bit in it, then there's something wrong with the battery or the controller.

 

[Mike Ayling]

Electric bikes also have pedals. Perhaps biobike is an apt neologism.

Shall we just stick to calling it a bike until an electric motor is attached?

 

[wiggydiggy]

Cube Supreme Hybrid Deluxe One 600Wh is 28kg. The British-made Mako Shark Mid Motor Step-Through 540Wh is 29.7kg. Gazelle Grenoble C5 600 Wh is 27kg exc. the battery.

Cube says it's 27.9kg: https://www.cube.eu/uk-en/cube-supreme-hybrid-deluxe-one-600-indigoblue-n-switch/114400

Shrk says it's 28.5kg: https://www.sharkebikes.com/products/mako

Gazelle says 27kg, without the battery: https://www.gazellebikes.com/en-gb/ebikes/grenoble-c5-hmb

Are they making their bikes from wrought iron with concrete bearings because I don't understand how my 2021 bike can be so much lighter.

 

[Dadam]

Shall we just stick to calling it a bike until an electric motor is attached?

Still a bike then!

 

[Mike Ayling]

Still a bike then!

IMNSHO we have bikes and ebikes.