Alloy v carbon difference

Discussion in 'General Cycling Discussions' started by Trigger369, 9 Mar 2019.

  1. derrick

    derrick The Glue that binds us together.

    There are **** ally frames and there are **** carbon frames, You get what you pay for.
     
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  2. Well that’s decades of experience, and many millions of pounds of research put to rights then.
     
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  3. Grant Fondo

    Grant Fondo 'Real Life, and Postcard Views, Europe Endless'

    Location:
    Cheshire
    Weirdly my 90s rigid alu Cannondale mtb has a stiffer ride than my 2017 carboniferous road bike with steeper angles.
     
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  4. MrBeanz

    MrBeanz Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Ontario California
    I have a 1998 Cannondale CAD3 bike and a 2014 full carbon Madone.

    I actually got the Madone as an upgrade from Trek after a lesser frame failed. The failed frame was a Lemond Chambery, partial carbon (spine design) and part aluminum.

    I'm really happy I didn't pay for the full carbon bike because I think it would have been a waste of money as far as ride quality. The Geo of the Lemond was a really sweet ride for my body. Fit like a glove, rode like butter.

    The full carbon is Meh OK but the steeper angles make it less comfy.

    I'd do solo centuries (100 miles) at 5:45. The Lemond was a much better ride due to the geometry. Sadly I snapped the frame on a climb at one of the alum joints. But I miss that bike!
     
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  5. rugby bloke

    rugby bloke Veteran

    Location:
    Northamptonshire
    I changed from an alloy Carerra to a carbon Giant last autumn. At first I noticed a massive difference, the carbon bike felt quicker and more responsive although not necessarily more comfortable - this of course could be down to the appalling state of Northants roads. Over time however, the riding experience feels pretty much the same. Yes, the Giant is quicker but not dramatically so and I suspect this is as much to do with the better groupset as the construction material. I'm looking forward to completing some proper long rides in the summer to be really able to compare the 2.
     
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  6. cyberknight

    cyberknight As long as I breathe, I attack.

    Location:
    Land of confusion
    Propel?
    They are supposed to be a bit harsh
     
  7. johnblack

    johnblack Well-Known Member

    I love my 'dale CAAD 8, usually ride it Nov to Apr, bit twitchy, great fun and I can take it mostly anywhere. The difference when I get back on the carbon is noticeable for acceleration and climbing, as it is lighter, but that's also to do with the different set-up, better components and wheels. If I put that kit on the 'dale it might be a close run thing.
     
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  8. rugby bloke

    rugby bloke Veteran

    Location:
    Northamptonshire
    Defy 3 - I would not describe it as an armchair ride. To be honest I have not noticed a great deal of difference over the old bike. I'm looking forward to riding on decent roads in Spain to see if I notice any difference.
     
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  9. Shearwater Missile

    Shearwater Missile Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Stowmarket
    It is all about compromise around a certain price point and that goes with most things in life. You`d need to have exactly the same wheels, tyres, bars and bar tape, saddle, groupset on both carbon and alloy bikes to feel the difference, if any other than weight. We are all different and what one feels comfortable on, on smooth roads, another would find a hard ride perhaps because that rider cycles over poorer road surfaces. If that makes sense. If it is damp or wet out on the roads I will take the alloy bike as that has mudguards. If it is dry I will take the carbon only because that cost me more and want it to last. Having said that, the alloy bike is 8 1/2 years old so that is lasting OK.
     
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  10. bladderhead

    bladderhead Well-Known Member

    My Grasshopper is aluminium with Meks carbon forks. My Cruzbike Silvio is aluminium and carbon, with a bit of Ti included. I am confused. What about bamboo?
     
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  11. Shearwater Missile

    Shearwater Missile Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Stowmarket
    Did I say alloy ? Whoops, I meant Ally as in aluminium. Anyway, what about bamboo ? I thought that was something Dick Van Dyke sang about !!
     
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  12. cyberknight

    cyberknight As long as I breathe, I attack.

    Location:
    Land of confusion
    i remember reading a review on the carrera basically the tube shape and profile made it a soft ride and tbh i find my tdf fine .
     
  13. bladderhead

    bladderhead Well-Known Member

    Felt? I bet it absorbs a lot of water in the rain.
     
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