another F@@@ S@@@ CRAP moment

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Matthew_T

"Young and Ex-whippet"
Apart from putting yourself in that position, the driver could have seen you.
When I was taught to turn left and right, I learned that you check you rear view and left side mirror, then the blind spot, and then indicate. When you have reached the junction, you then check your left mirror again to see if a cyclist has appeared in it. If this driver had done just that, then they would have noticed the cyclist because he was in full view of the mirror.
 

Cycling Dan

Cycle Crazy
The 2 people who have partially blamed the driver don't drive (haven't passed their test) have they? Wonder if the OP has too?

Just sayin
Partly is an exaggeration more like a tiny bit. Although if he was in a blind spot then no fault on the drivers part.
 

BentMikey

Rider of Seolferwulf
Location
South London
Speaking of blind spots, I wouldn't have been that close to the bus. The blind spot on a bus is huge. They haven't got the extra mirrors that HGVs have and are almost as long.

I don't think the cyclist was in the bus driver's blind spot - you'd easily be able to see the bus driver in that position, so therefore the bus driver can see you.

He was however in the car driver's blind spot, and I suspect that the driver didn't expect him there, nor even look to check. Unwise filtering by the cyclist, IMO.
 
You can see that the bus ahead is stopped far ahead of you. You can also see that there is traffic in the other lane. The driver puts his indicator on before you are alongside yet you still go up the left of him and don't back out.

For future reference:

1) Take the lane much earlier
2) Do a shoulder check and see if there is a gap you can slot into in the other lane.
3) If you want to filter, do it on the right hand side of the rightmost lane. You are less likely to get SMIDSY'd, you can see oncoming traffic about to right hook you and you are less likely to get squashed or left hooked.
4) If you can see a dangerous situation developing, you are much better backing out of it or being pretty confident you can accelerate past it. No point being right if you're dead.
 
Accidents happen (luckily not here) and we all make mistakes. I've been in the OP's position through my own stupidity and it cost me a crushed toe (through Moto-X boots!) which later abscessed. Ouch! I retain the scar and wince when I remember the crunchiness of a London bus.

What is odd here is that the OP made this mistake, failed to see it and even posted an accusatory (for it is) video on Youtube. I hope the video has now been taken down.

Having been advised that he/she may have been culpable for the near miss, he/she persisted with the view that the fault lay elsewhere.

It does not. I'm with 400bhp, Fossyant and several others on this one. The OP got it badly (and almost painfully and expensively) wrong.

I'm with BM on the OP almost certainly being in the blind spot of the car. Vanity plates and the Golf Plus are criminal concepts, but the driving was not criminal.

OP, this was a free lesson for you. I'd sell the camera and spend a part of the proceeds on a copy of the Highway Code.
 

Andrew_P

In between here and there
Although I feel a bit sorry for the OP I am quite releived the majority go with how I saw it when it was first posted up last night.

The OP riding style pretty much matches how I rode for the first month, transferring my old Car driving attitude to a bike "must get in front" these days I wouldn't have even been there if the car wasn't indicating the fact there is a junction I would be expexcting the left turn. Won't comment on getting caught in a Bus & Car Sandwich.

My only caveat is that I do not ride in heavy slow moving traffic for the full length of my commute so not sure if I would up my aggressiveness on filtering if I had to travel with slow moving heavy traffic all the time.

I think if you remove the "must get in front" it removes you from a lot of self inflicted dodgy situations and always assume the other road users have not seen you/using a mobile/eating a sandwich or plain don't care.
 

BSRU

A Human Being
Location
Swindon
Here we go, another cammer who will not admit when wrong.:rolleyes:
I'm always wrong, at least that what the misses keeps telling me:tongue:

Agree with the majority opinion, car indicating left whilst you were behind therefore you should not have attempted to filter on the left.
Obviously written with the benefit of 20/20 hindsight:becool:
 
I have a helmet cam and have posted a couple of dodgy manouvers by other roadusers.

I have also reviewd footage of points where it has become decidely scary and seen that my positioning was not the best. It is alwsy worth trying to keep an open mind when reviewing as you can read other people's posts all day long, but going through it for yourself and asking 'what would I do differently' will teach you far more.

That is not to say it is alwasy one sided. Sometimes it is 100% the other guy, sometimes 50-50 and sometimes 100% your fault (as in the OP).

I wouldn;t have done what you did and think everyone else can explain far better on here than I can as to what you should do next time. Learn from it.
 

VamP

Banned
Location
Cambs
Whee, that was cringeworthy the way you persevered in pushing on into that gap that was rapidly diminishing. Regardless of how risk averse you might be, there has to come a time when putting the brakes on becomes a matter of survival. Playing chicken with large metal boxes is not big nor is it clever.

We all get things wrong at speed sometimes, but you seem to think that there was nothing wrong in the way you rode there even having reviewed it repeatedly before posting here. Like many others on here, I fear that your judgement is seriously flawed. Please reconsider your approach before you become a statistic.
 

J.Primus

Senior Member
This is what I like about this cycling forum. "One of us" posts a video of himself cycling dangerously and is roundly told as much albeit with some constructive advice on how to avoid in the future.
Compare that to PistonHeads forum when they were discussing the assault by the white van man that was in the papers yesterday and about 80% were saying that it was justified soley because the victim was a cyclist.
Nice to see a lack of tribalism and common sense prevailing ^_^
 
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