Any policemen on here? stolen bike what would you do?

[PaulSB]

Personally I would not invve the police. You've already stated your son has behavioural issues and police involvement may further contribute to this.

Clearly I know nothing of the situation but the question has been asked on the web. My view would be the immediate family should be the boy's refuge, the stability from which he can build to overcome the "issues." If his parents bring in the police on this matter this could damage those links and bonds compounding the difficulties.

If you are 100% certain your son is responsible and are prepared to give him a criminal record call the police. BUT suppose you are wrong in believing it was him. Perhaps this one time it wasn't?

I'd think long and hard about this. Yes a crime has been committed by someone but you risk much more than a bike.

 

[Big Nick]

Unless things have changed in the last ten years; the Police are NOT a property recovery service. If they get involved in these matters, and there is evidence to press charges, then they are duty bound to press charges.
If the complainer in this case was to withhold evidence to prevent such charges being made, then they could find themselves charged with wasting Police time or attempting to pervert the course of justice.

Has the bike been stolen? Yes according to the OP, theft is a crime, the police investigate crime
What evidence is being withheld if the evidence gathered by police subsequently leads to the OP's son being involved and at that point the OP ultimately decides to withdraw his complaint now he knows the full circumstances ? (The OP does not know whom actually stole his bike but does know where it is now i.e.in the hands of a person not known to him)
As for wasting police time and PTCOJ.......total rubbish

 

[Brandane]

Has the bike been stolen? Yes according to the OP, theft is a crime, the police investigate crime
What evidence is being withheld if the evidence gathered by police subsequently leads to the OP's son being involved and at that point the OP ultimately decides not to press charges?
As for wasting police time and PTCOJ.......total rubbish

Yes, the Police investigate crime. They investigate it (hopefully) beyond the point of simply recovering property. Like I said; they are not there for the convenience of people who simply want their property returned without the hassle of seeing it through the courts. You want that - go and get it back yourself.
I am going on Scottish procedures BTW, and I appreciate that things are different in the rest of the UK; but I cannot imagine that the Police would look favourably on your scenario..
As for dismissing as rubbish my wasting Police time and perverting the course of justice - in a lot of circumstances that is exactly what would happen**. I feel reasonably qualified to give that opinion (unless, as I said, things have changed in 10 years. A lot has, and not for the better).

** There are good and valid reasons for this. One that comes to mind is where witnesses/complainers have been threatened/advised by perpetrators into "dropping" charges. Don't allow charges to be dropped, and threatening witnesses becomes less of a worthwhile activity.

 

[Big Nick]

Total rubbish

 

[coco69]

Personally I would not invve the police. You've already stated your son has behavioural issues and police involvement may further contribute to this.

Clearly I know nothing of the situation but the question has been asked on the web. My view would be the immediate family should be the boy's refuge, the stability from which he can build to overcome the "issues." If his parents bring in the police on this matter this could damage those links and bonds compounding the difficulties.

If you are 100% certain your son is responsible and are prepared to give him a criminal record call the police. BUT suppose you are wrong in believing it was him. Perhaps this one time it wasn't?

I'd think long and hard about this. Yes a crime has been committed by someone but you risk much more than a bike.

That is my dilemma......to cut a long story short he will not engage in any adults so we are unable to get him to cahms appointments.....cahms wont rubber stamp a diagnosis just on me and my wifes 2 year weekly report on him (fully understand) without seeing and monitoring him...SO we have unofficially been told that when he gets arrested again for a violent act, call the police (again) they will put him in a cell (again) and when they release him we must as a family refuse to let him into the house...this will force social services to take responsibility of him with a possibility of him being mentally assessed ANY

I messaged the seller and I now have a address (2 miles from me) and a contact number...........................................?

 

[classic33]

Arrange a viewing with a possibility of bidding. It'll give you the chance to confirm or deny its the same bike. No point bidding on a bike thats the wrong size is there. Just don't say how close you are in any message sent, you're close enough & interested enough to go and see it first.

 

[summerdays]

Have you contacted CAMHS to see what advice they have, and from your comment I assume he already is known to the police?

 

[marzjennings]

Arrange for a viewing of the bike, ask for test ride and then ride home, easy.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-gets-stolen-bike-seeing-sale-Craigslist.html

 

[coco69]

Have you contacted CAMHS to see what advice they have, and from your comment I assume he already is known to the police?

Dont even go there....had 2 years of Inconsistency with that shower

 

[summerdays]

From my friends dealings I think you need to find a couple of them on your side and then try and get them involved at each stage. They have been dealing with them for err almost 8 or 10 years now.

 

[Brandane]

Total rubbish

Care to elaborate as to why you think my post is total rubbish? After all, I took the time to explain to you why I thought it was NOT rubbish. Maybe you could back up your view with some information as to your experience of the legal system? Or why you are qualified to dismiss my post as total rubbish?

 

[Big Nick]

It is a persons right to withdraw their complaint, they aren't saying the bike wasn't stolen but they are saying they do not wish to support a subsequent prosecution. The police can still run a 'victimless' prosecution but without a victim to confirm the item was stolen at court they would be on a hiding to nothing.
This contrasts to DV assault cases where often victimless prosecution will still go ahead as the 'public interest' part of the 'full code' test is still met (as many victims withdraw for reasons of fear) and there will often be other evidence available such as photographs of injuries and police officer testimony as to injuries seen at the time etc.
I have a reasonably good knowledge of the workings of the legal system gained over 20 years

 

[Pro Tour Punditry]

I hadn't realised there were so many police officers or ex-police officers on cyclechat

 

[summerdays]

I hadn't realised there were so many police officers or ex-police officers on cyclechat

And you are?

I don't think most if us let a lack of qualifications stop us from giving our opinions

 

[Pro Tour Punditry]

And you are?

I am actually.