Apalling actions from an Arriva bus driver

[AndyRM]

Jeezo. I'm not quite sure why I read through 11 pages of mostly guff, but it's early and I've nothing else to do on the throne.

Mr. T, you could have avoided all that. It was a minor incident that didn't need to be escalated IMO.

There's a saying about water and the backs of ducks which I think could be applied.

Keep the camera going if you want to, but don't upload trivialities. It cheapens any argument against bad driving, particularly if some of your cycling was questionable.

In summary, enjoy your cycling, and try to let the small things slide.

 

[oldfatfool]

Having posted earlier 'sack the pair' I agree that it would be extreme, in no little part because of the knock on effect it would have on their families. They do however as I later posted require a short sharp shock, being forced to cycle themselves for a couple of hours around their own town wouldn't be a bad bit of training for all bus drivers to have to go through.

 

[lukesdad]

As long as it isn't under Mathews supervision.

 

[ComedyPilot]

And what's with all the bleating about a driver losing his job, and the possible hardship caused to his family?

Professional drivers know that their license is their livelihood, and 'should' drive accordingly to maintain that livelihood, as should millions of drivers who 'need' their vehicles for commuting/shopping.

What we have ingrained in (some?) drivers now (possibly millions) is a mindset that they shouldn't be made to be responsible for bad driving (after the fact) as this will cause them hardship, whereas they should be driving to a safe standard so as not to be punished in the first place.

So, rather than the deterrant that it is for reasonable people, it is being used as a mitigating factor for careless/dangerous drivers to carry on regardless.

 

[lukesdad]

His wife and family probably left years ago, so, in balance fire him I don't use busses anyway.

 

[Poacher]

In all seriousness does anyone contributing to this thread know a driver who owns, let alone reads, the HC?

The problem is driving standards not whether or not one reads the HC on a regular basis. It won't change habits. Starting this thread and riding around with a copy of the HC in your saddlebag is indicative of someone hoping to make the most of a situation, having to be right and unable to appreciate this action may actually do more harm than good.

After several incidents, I decided to carry a copy of the HC on my commute. When a spittle-flecked moron has forced you into the kerb at 20 mph, enraged that you weren't using a cr@p cycle farcility by the side of a very wide road, then got out to try and punch you senseless, just quoting the HC at them doesn't cut it. Thrusting the relevant page of the HC (not a download or photocopy, as they won't believe it) into their bloated red face generally quietens them down rapidly.

If you haven't bothered to read the HC since passing your test 41 years ago, I strongly suggest that you do, as much has changed in that time - ASLs for a start. Most of the problem drivers I encounter seem to be proud of the fact they "know" the HC and therefore have no need ever to read it.

 

[Davidsw8]

To be fair I think everyone thinks Mathew is a nobber to some degree, the difference appears to be wether folks are bus driver fanboys or not.

I don't...

 

[lukesdad]

I don't...

Think ?

 

[The Jogger]

[e="ComedyPilot, post: 2614632, member: 2262"]And what's with all the bleating about a driver losing his job, and the possible hardship caused to his family?

Professional drivers know that their license is their livelihood, and 'should' drive accordingly to maintain that livelihood, as should millions of drivers who 'need' their vehicles for commuting/shopping.

What we have ingrained in (some?) drivers now (possibly millions) is a mindset that they shouldn't be made to be responsible for bad driving (after the fact) as this will cause them hardship, whereas they should be driving to a safe standard so as not to be punished in the first place.

So, rather than the deterrant that it is for reasonable people, it is being used as a mitigating factor for careless/dangerous drivers to carry on regardless.[/quote]

Sack him and he could go out get in his car for years with some sort of vendetta against cyclists. Retraining would be a benefit all round.....

Surely. ........

 

[Andrew_Culture]

I'm sure someone has already mentioned this, but can I say that 99.9999999% of bus drivers I share Tarmac space with on my travels are AWESOME and seem to have a very good understanding of how not to flatten cyclists.

I still might watch Matt's video.

 

[sickboyblue]

To be fair I think everyone thinks Mathew is a nobber to some degree, the difference appears to be wether folks are bus driver fanboys or not.

I don't.. he's a young lad with the balls to stand up for himself.

 

[deptfordmarmoset]

I don't...

Me neither but I do sense there's evidence of a dangerous and pig ignorant bus drivers' sub-culture at the depot.

 

[lukesdad]

[QUOTE 2614646, member: 45"]Nor me.[/quote]

 

[lukesdad]

Shall we have a poll ?

 

[The Jogger]

Young and over zealous.