Are bikes vehicles?

[Archie_tect]

Anyone zapped cycling faster than 40mph would probably make the police rear gunner go and recalibrate in disbelief.

 

[ComedyPilot]

Motorists don't get 'done' for speeding. The same mindset would be laughable if people get 'done' for armed robbery. People are fined etc for motoring offences, as a punishment for breaking the law.

Cyclists can't get 'done' for speeding, but depending on the circumstances could get 'done' for wanton or furious cycling.

 

[al78]

No, because the specific legislation applies to motorised vehicles.

Although some places have bylaws where the speed limits do apply to cyclists (e.g. Richmond Park).

 

[marinyork]

Although some places have bylaws where the speed limits do apply to cyclists (e.g. Richmond Park).

Richmond park is covered by primary legislation. It's certainly true of other places that local bylaws exist e.g. I'm not allowed to push my bike over a flowerbed round here.

 

[ComedyPilot]

S28 Road Traffic Act 1988 - Dangerous Cycling

S29 Road Traffic Act 1988 - Careless and Inconsiderate Cycling

S30 Road Traffic Act 1988 - Cycling under the influence of Drink/Drugs

S72 Highways Act 1835 - Cycling on a Footpath.

Offences Against the Person Act 1861 - Wanton and Furious cycling

 

[Cubist]

Motorists don't get 'done' for speeding. The same mindset would be laughable if people get 'done' for armed robbery. People are fined etc for motoring offences, as a punishment for breaking the law.

Cyclists can't get 'done' for speeding, but depending on the circumstances could get 'done' for wanton or furious cycling.

My cat got done. He wasn't even slightly naughty.

 

[HJ]

So to complete (the silly let's be clear) point if this is the case then cyclists can be done for speeding?!?

No, the Road Traffic Act 1982 specifically states "motor vehicles" as was clearly stated in the last thread where you to tried to make the same pathetic point, and failed...

 

[ComedyPilot]

No, the Road Traffic Act 1982 specifically states "motor vehicles" as was clearly stated in the last thread where to tried to make the same pathetic point, and failed...

Where who tried?

 

[HJ]

Lizban

 

[BentMikey]

I've seen on other threads about it being not possible to prosecute cyclists for speeding or other offences as they are not vehicles.

Whomever said that was wrong. Bicycles are vehicles, specifically defined as carriages.

 

[Randochap]

Yes.

 

[atbman]

There is a main set of laws which apply to all vehicles, whether motor-powered or not. These include road signs which apply to all vehicles, e.g. those at pinch points which have a sign saying Give Way to Oncoming Vehicles/Traffic, which means you Mr. Cyclist

There are subsets of laws which apply to specific types of vehicles, e.g. Lanes which allow only Buses, bikes and taxis, or Buses only, or cycles only or prohibitions of certain vehicles from motorways, etc. Ditto speed limits which apply only to motor vehicles (except certain, very specified areas, e.g. some royal parks and Brighton(?) seafront promenade, etc.

I believe that the charge of Furious & Reckless riding has now been renamed reckless riding - someone was done in Cambridge?/Oxford? some years ago for this offence and it made national news. You cannot be charged with speeding since the law does not require bikes to be fitted with a speed measuring device, so you cannot be expected to obey a speed limit when you cannot be proven to be aware that you were breaking it. Even if you have a bike computer onboard, there is no legally defined level of accuracy as there is with motor vehicles.

 

[BentMikey]

You cannot be charged with speeding since the law does not require bikes to be fitted with a speed measuring device, so you cannot be expected to obey a speed limit when you cannot be proven to be aware that you were breaking it. Even if you have a bike computer onboard, there is no legally defined level of accuracy as there is with motor vehicles.

This bit is entirely wrong. You cannot be charged with speeding on most public highways because the law specifically applies to motor vehicles, and not to bicycles. You can be charged with speeding in places such as Richmond Park where the byelaws do cover bicycles as well. That's the case whether or not you have a speedometer.

 

[jimboalee]

You've no need to worry BentMikey.

You ride a HPV.

 

[BentMikey]

LOL! It's just a bicycle in the end.