Are bikes vehicles?

[skwerl]

Er no, I wasn't particularly making a point of it but if you're going to insist, you are factually wrong. The royal parks are not covered by local bylaws, they are covered by primary legislation and SIs. Unless you mean local in a broad sense which is contrary to this discussion and then many things would be local e.g. a no motor vehicles zone.

So. Now I've done some more looking and found the SI that covers this (Royal Parks and Other Open Spaces).

"May not drive or ride any vehicle on a Park road in excess of the speed specified in relation to that road in Part II of Schedule 2 to these Regulations". Part II, Schedule 2 states that speed to be 20MPH.
So, as long as a bicycle is classed as a vehicle, which we've ascertained it is, it's limited to 20MPH.

 

[marinyork]

So. Now I've done some more looking and found the SI that covers this (Royal Parks and Other Open Spaces).

"May not drive or ride any vehicle on a Park road in excess of the speed specified in relation to that road in Part II of Schedule 2 to these Regulations". Part II, Schedule 2 states that speed to be 20MPH.
So, as long as a bicycle is classed as a vehicle, which we've ascertained it is, it's limited to 20MPH.

I'm already aware of the last SI that covered this, having read it several times (IIRC royal parks used to be 30mph and were covered by another one).

Whichever way you read it, in the context of this thread:-
(a) bikes are vehicles and Lizban's attempt at yet another thread sympathising with badly behaving motorists has gone up in smoke.
( Some road signs apply to cyclists, some don't. Whether you call it local or not (local meaning in terms of law in this discussion) or how it interacts at different levels it doesn't matter, we all agree, except apparently Lizban.
(c) Whether a sign applies to you or not is for you to work out (a concept that some have incredible difficulty with) and doesn't have anything to do with what some mate down the pub told you.

 

[skwerl]

I'm already aware of the last SI that covered this, having read it several times (IIRC royal parks used to be 30mph and were covered by another one).

Correct. the original 1997 SI was 30MPH, reduced to 20MPH in a 2004 ammendment